Lancia Beta Forum
General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: peteracs on April 10, 2025, 10:59:33 PM
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Hi
A recent message from Stefano re a download from the forum, prompted me to consider a proper download section of the forum which could present articles in one place rather than having to search various posts. The forum has limited space, but can accommodate a modest amount of data. The question is, is it worth having?
Peter
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sounds like a great idea.
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It does sound like a great idea but how much is 'modest' ? The parts books and manuals that I've got are about 4Gb in pdf form
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It's not a bad idea but I would suggest possibly restricting it to members who have made a donation or something similar?
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Hi
Currently we have a 10gb package, of which around 1.6Gb is used including images. Although Krystal do a daily backup according to the details, I also make a backup each evening of the full forum and save away to an iDrive. I have no reason to doubt their system, but having spent a lot of years going to customer sites who claim full backups and then being very disappointed when the reality hits, I prefer to err on the side of belt and braces approach, so if we assume that downloads can be backed up separate to the main forum, then probably around 5-6Gb with the current setup. There is an option to go to 25Gb of storage or even unlimited which is where the LMC forum is going to go over the next few weeks,
I was aiming to moderate what we allow to go in the downloads section at first, not sure how it will work yet.
Peter
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I think we may have a solution thanks to the LMC in part. They are looking to re-host their forum due to a 403 problem which we had here and the decision has been taken to use Krystal which we are on. In order to host the LMC forum they need ideally at least 50Gb space which means going for a package which includes unlimited space and website hosting and are happy to share the space/cost with us, so going to talk with Krystal tomorrow re upgrading out package.
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Hi
So it was agreed to share our package with the LMC forum and now we have pretty much unlimited space available. I will have look at the relevant add on and see if it would work for us.
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Will this new hosting along with unlimited space
create different costs for the Beta forum?
Nigel
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Hi Nigel
Krystal costs are somewhat lower than Zen, the equivalent original package was approx half the Zen cost. The package we are now on is in total around £240 per 2 years assuming we pay half, so quite reasonable for unlimited storage.
Peter
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Sounds like another result - thanks Peter.
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Hi
Had a play with the downloads add on to the forum which seems to do the job quite nicely and has various controls. For anyone wanting to have a look I have setup a test forum here
http://ashlyn.co.uk/forum/index.php
It should allow you to login as normal.
Ther are a few questions I would like comments on in order to configure it.
1) You have sections, so what sections would be useful, eg wiring, parts books etc?
2) Do we allow guests to access the downloads section, either to view and/or download?
3) currently it is set to moderate each file after it has been uploaded before it is available to download or should any upload be auto approved by the user?
4) current setup is max file size of 500Mb which is pretty large, is this too large (we have the space)?
Peter
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Just my opinion but:
1) You have sections, so what sections would be useful, eg wiring, parts books etc? Brochures, road tests & mag articles, wiring diagrams, parts books, technical data. I'm sure there could be more.
2) Do we allow guests to access the downloads section, either to view and/or download? No - we want the forum to thrive and putting resource behind a paywall (ableit a free one) is a good incetnive to join and take part.
3) currently it is set to moderate each file after it has been uploaded before it is available to download or should any upload be auto approved by the user? Sadly I think they have to be moderated - some groups have had some really innapropriate stuff uploaded.
4) current setup is max file size of 500Mb which is pretty large, is this too large (we have the space)? Sounds generous but if we have the space and we're moderating it should be fine.
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point 1) is interesting as I think you need some curation, i.e. one person's view on the right folder structure not a mixture of how different people would like it organised
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Hi John
The folder structure would be set by admins and only modified by them, so would be controlled.
Peter
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Hi
I have started installing the downloads section, will start on the sections later this evening. I have set the permissions for uploading etc which vary according to the users status. Sadly guests who are not logged in cannot view the downloads as the only way to do this also enables the ability to actually download the item which from early comments is not a desired function. To allow guests to have a view only function requires an upgrade to the paid for download mod which we may consider later I guess?
Peter
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Hi
Well I did not follow up populating the downloads section at the time, but have now made a start on adding the docs I have. I received a quantity of docs from Tyson Nuss in the US which are also hosted on the Lancisti site which I will start uploading, there are several good documents on the injection system, most are US related, but should provide some help. The Lancisti site is sort of dormant from what I can tell.
If anyone has any docs they want to have uploaded feel free to get in touch, though I think most folk should be able to upload them via the forum downloads section.
Peter
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I just posted this in another thread, but certainly feel free to add this to the file of docs if you haven't already:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KKFGvRg-1kkXrhDPXWBizgRc_7Lqs54B/view?usp=sharing
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Will do many thanks
Peter
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Added a number of L Jetronic documents in the downloads section.
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This is the colour reference chart for the wiring diagram.
It allows you to easily verify which components the wiring is connected to.
I have sent the original (PDF) to Tony, so please upload it if you require it.
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Hi Masataka
I had already uploaded it and the wiring diagram, but thanks for letting us have it available.
Peter
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Hi
I have uploaded a number of other docs to the downloads Technical section. I do also have a scan copy of Haynes Electrical Chapter which I found on the web some years ago, but a bit sensitive to upload it to the site re copyright. I see it is no longer available to purchase new from Haynes, so happy to supply a copy to anyone who has the paper copy, but also would like the electronic scan. The paper copy is normally available second hand on Ebay/Facebook etc for just a few pounds.
Peter
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I have also drawn up the colour wiring diagrams for the left-hand drive S2 series Berlina, Spider, and HPE.
As your Betas are right-hand drive, they won't match the diagrams exactly, but I think they might be of some use.
If required, I can send you the original diagrams.
Masataka
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Hi Masataka
Many thanks, that would be most useful. If you could either upload them to the downloads section (I think you should be able to) or you can email me the drawings and I will upload them (lbfadmin@icloud.com).
Peter
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I have posted.
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I have posted.
Hi
Where did you post it?
Thanks
Peter
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I have posted directly to the download section.
It displays 'Download Not Approved'.
Is it awaiting the administrator's approval?
Masataka
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Hi
Ah that would explain it.....
First upload to the section other than myself and forgot that they needed approval....
Thanks for doing it and for testing the upload!
Peter