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Title: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on April 29, 2026, 06:46:26 PM
So Simplydelboy posted about selling one of his Lancia's a few weeks back right after I left a hefty bid on a Rover SD1(I need a classic I can use now not a project that I currently have. So my bid on that was unsuccessful so I immediately contacted Derek to view his HPE. I would have done this at the time had i not just put a bid on the above as the Lancia fits my criteria. So went to see it 12/04 but was aware of a small water leak that Derek insisted on rectifying first and today he has advised all sorted. So ive now paid for the HPE and in the process of having it transported to me (cam belt hasn't been done in 13 years so not risking the drive up the A1) thats on my list to do and will now get the bits ordered.   car should be here swiftly as soon as transport can fit it in just in time for show season
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: Nigel on April 29, 2026, 09:41:46 PM
Looks lovely Steve, well done.
And a fitting reg as well!

I think this was displayed at the nec a few years ago.

Nigel
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: deks on April 29, 2026, 09:47:13 PM
Looks lovely Steve, well done.
And a fitting reg as well!

I think this was displayed at the nec a few years ago.

Nigel

it does seem to be a recognised car. as for displaying at NEC I will be putting her forward for next years restoration show
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: kbetas on April 30, 2026, 09:07:34 AM
Welcome to the relatively small HPE owners club!. Car looks very nice in Silver. It might be worth changing the thermostat as well, they do seem to become unreliable if left sitting around for a long time.

Kevin
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: Clifford on April 30, 2026, 11:03:59 AM
Looks lovely. My first Lancia was an HPE and would have another if I had the space!
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: deks on April 30, 2026, 12:48:44 PM
Welcome to the relatively small HPE owners club!. Car looks very nice in Silver. It might be worth changing the thermostat as well, they do seem to become unreliable if left sitting around for a long time.

Kevin

I'll check though I am sure Derek was on top of anything needing doing. I had to wait a week for him to sort a small leak that he wouldn't let me buy the car with.
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: simplydelboy on May 02, 2026, 07:35:22 PM
Hi all, yes the thermostat was replaced last year and radiator recored. Steve's transport is collecting the car on Tuesday and I will be very sad to see it go, it's a great car. Yes the car was on the NEC stand I think in 2014. Good luck with it Steve and thanks for making the sale so straight forward.
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: deks on May 02, 2026, 08:21:42 PM
Hi all, yes the thermostat was replaced last year and radiator recored. Steve's transport is collecting the car on Tuesday and I will be very sad to see it go, it's a great car. Yes the car was on the NEC stand I think in 2014. Good luck with it Steve and thanks for making the sale so straight forward.

Thanks Derek for filling in some unknown info.
Pleasure to meet you and deal with such a gent.

Steve
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: deks on May 05, 2026, 09:21:29 PM
Long wait today for the car to arrive and thank you to Derek for being patient with the transport guy who was delayed on earlier jobs. 
As with all classics already cars a few jobs I need to attend to but she’s is a beaut that has been well cared for by its previous owner and I am looking forward to owning her for a very long time and enjoying her in the summer
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: Nigel on May 05, 2026, 09:55:12 PM
Wishing you many miles of joy Steve!
Hope to meet you and the car sometime soon.

I suggest liberal rustproofing everywhere even if it's been done already. Especially
at the door and side top areas, and sills/inner sills.
I guess, given the previous owner, that all servicing is up to date. I have a 'rule'
that I change oil and filter every 2/3k miles or so.

Happy days, Nigel

Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: deks on May 06, 2026, 06:06:19 AM
Wishing you many miles of joy Steve!
Hope to meet you and the car sometime soon.

I suggest liberal rustproofing everywhere even if it's been done already. Especially
at the door and side top areas, and sills/inner sills.
I guess, given the previous owner, that all servicing is up to date. I have a 'rule'
that I change oil and filter every 2/3k miles or so.

Happy days, Nigel


Thanks for advice 
Camelot requires changing and is on its way. I have also order oil and filter as a precaution. I will inspect the paperwork tomorrow and decide whether it needs doing now or later . She's not had much use over the last year or so due to owner being unwell I think so I expect somethings to suffer as a consequence such as I think i have a sticky caliber I could feel it pulling as I backed in the garage. may just want a clean up and I am not bothered by it at all. All part of classic ownership but I do want to check it out before embarking on any lengthy journey.
Title: Re: HPE INCOMING
Post by: deks on May 09, 2026, 04:06:32 PM
So the car arrived and I put it straight into the garage as it was late. I noticed though immediately a brake caliper was sticking so today I’ve got her up on stands so I can investigate the issue. I have ordered to rebuild kits for the rears and also a service kit for the engine and cambelt so all this will be done at the same time when the parts arrive.  I am also looking for a local dent specialist as there’s a small dent in the front wing I want looking at
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 14, 2026, 06:20:29 PM
So today I had delivery of the final parts needed for Camelot change and engine major service.

Didnt go to plan, fired up the engine which kicked into life and promptly stopped. got very worried at this point that I had got something wrong and close to stripping everything out again but once I took the airbag off I found an electrical connector for something on the fuel side unplugged. put this on and away she went.

fixed a few bits that weren't quite right like the dropping door which was a hinge bolt missing and then re fitted captive nuts so the door card could be correctly attached

The door cards need a refurb not least because they don't match the seats but this will be a winter job. Also have a weep from steering rack (PAS) so will be taking that out at some point, again hopefully winter time.

Door window seals and electric window power supply the next jobs to tackle after Ive done the brakes.

Hopefully get her out on the road over the weekend
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 16, 2026, 02:27:08 PM
After 11 days finally got her back on four wheels and running again.  Was planning on a drive out this afternoon but weathers turned so I’ve put her away again

Issue with running to resolve, she hunting quite badly on tickover when warm. I expect I’ll have to take her somewhere to resolve that as that’s not really my forte.

Still got a list of things to do and change and finding improvements I’d like to make many of which will be over winter projects

Also found some rust that will need to be dealt with sooner rather than later one in the tailgate runner frame and the bottom of rear quarter has some bubbling.

Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: rossocorsa on May 16, 2026, 05:34:47 PM
Regarding the hunting at idle I'm not well up in injection Betas but I think a lot of L jetronic cars have an idle air valve that might cause this. Number 7 I think?
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 16, 2026, 06:03:23 PM
Many thanks for the heads up. I will investigate.  I took am not that clever with injection systems.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: rossocorsa on May 16, 2026, 06:08:20 PM
Many thanks for the heads up. I will investigate.  I took am not that clever with injection systems.
I had a Y10 GTie and it was this unit causing erratic air supply, I think it is only supposed to operate when the engine is cold. I found a new one that was similar but not the exact match and it fixed the issue. However it could be an air leak or set up issue anywhere within fuel and ignition systems  injection systems are really easy much more so than carbs, check the book in the downloads and read it up.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 16, 2026, 06:46:17 PM
Many thanks for the heads up. I will investigate.  I took am not that clever with injection systems.
I had a Y10 GTie and it was this unit causing erratic air supply, I think it is only supposed to operate when the engine is cold. I found a new one that was similar but not the exact match and it fixed the issue. However it could be an air leak or set up issue anywhere within fuel and ignition systems  injection systems are really easy much more so than carbs, check the book in the downloads and read it up.

thanks for heads up's  ill take a look at the downloads and look at this valve.  I did wonder if it might be an air leak so will look at that aswell
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 17, 2026, 05:06:49 PM
Many thanks for the heads up. I will investigate.  I took am not that clever with injection systems.
I had a Y10 GTie and it was this unit causing erratic air supply, I think it is only supposed to operate when the engine is cold. I found a new one that was similar but not the exact match and it fixed the issue. However it could be an air leak or set up issue anywhere within fuel and ignition systems  injection systems are really easy much more so than carbs, check the book in the downloads and read it up.

well I was under the bonnet today doing coolant change and noticed that a connector was off of the part discussed and thus I plugged it back in and now idling much better
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 17, 2026, 05:14:55 PM
finally taken her out for a quick spin in the countryside. All the service works now complete, Ive changed just about everything in the last 10 days to do with engine and also rebuilt the rear claspers and fitted new pads. Given her a little polish which has revealed one or two things to do, a few little paint blemishes and some corrosion to deal with also the corner brackets on the nearside front and rear bumpers are not doing their job. They are present but one isn't attached to the bumper and the other is twisted so holding in the wrong place. I am guessing I am going to have to remove the bumpers to deal with that problem.   

Loving the car and pleased with my purchase.  Still not sure what to do with the Spyder though as I feel much of my time will be taken up improving the HPE
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: lancialulu on May 17, 2026, 08:57:31 PM
Cant beat a silver HPE!
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: Ferrit on May 17, 2026, 11:05:16 PM
I bet a fuel injected one runs well.  Lucky you getting out.  It started raining here when I was packing tools up
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 18, 2026, 06:26:22 AM
I bet a fuel injected one runs well.  Lucky you getting out.  It started raining here when I was packing tools up

Looked like rain here as I finished cleaning but thankfully it passed us by
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 25, 2026, 05:06:53 PM
30 odd degrees in the shade and yet I still thought it was a good idea to work on the car in the garage 🤣🤣  minor jobs  today fitted the bonnet cover that was supplied with the car and hopefully repaired the broken clip on rear bumper. the welds had given up and as its chrome I wasn't attempting to re fix that so used Tiger seal to bond it on.

A little bit of surface rust found around sunroof opening area so I ve ordered a touch up stick to fix that hopefully got the right colour as I couldn't find the paint code on the car so used google
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on May 29, 2026, 04:52:26 PM
So had the dent man round today to get the small dent out of the wing. Paintless dent removal. Wasn’t here that long and I am very happy with the result
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on July 28, 2026, 08:11:52 PM
Found an issue on the drive today while the car was parked outside a fluid spill left where she was parked. a quick check has revealed a fuel leak around the tank area so thats now an urgent fix to be getting on with. it was gone 5pme when I saw it so will be tomorrow when I can get it up in the air and start investigating.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: lancialulu on July 31, 2026, 10:45:44 AM
Found an issue on the drive today while the car was parked outside a fluid spill left where she was parked. a quick check has revealed a fuel leak around the tank area so thats now an urgent fix to be getting on with. it was gone 5pme when I saw it so will be tomorrow when I can get it up in the air and start investigating.

Probably condensation rot out from inside tank above the flange line. You will need to take tank out (empty via siphon from sender hole, and see how bad it is when all the sealant etc is cleaned off.

If you slosh with Por15 etc be ever so careful if i.e or volumex not to block up the swirl pot/pick up with the slosh....
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on August 10, 2026, 03:50:14 PM
So my fuel leak transpires to be a failed clip to what I think is a breather pipe and I therefore assume that as I massively over filled the car this is the result. Anyway the tank is out and I am in the process of changing all the fuel pipes under the car, which leads to my post on the fuel system threads as Ive made a rookie error and the pic i took isnt clear so I am stuck working out which is which for flow and return.  The metal pipes in the car and the rubber ones from them were both same size.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on August 10, 2026, 03:52:50 PM
Then to make my afternoon even happier I sent an image of the fuel pipes in the boot to a friend who has pointed out that i have some serious corrosion on the offside rear turret which I hadn't seen and which I am most cross at myself for as this is going to be a major repair not dissimilar to my Spyder so you think Id have spotted that.
Looks like Ive got a fair amount of winter work on this to keep me busy
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: HFStuart on August 10, 2026, 04:07:29 PM
Annoying by strip off the sound deadening and see what you've got. A piecemeal repair here isn't too hard.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on August 10, 2026, 04:51:03 PM
Annoying by strip off the sound deadening and see what you've got. A piecemeal repair here isn't too hard.

Yes I am hopeful I can get away with a small local repair there. The car is garaged and unlikely to be out in rain so hopefully it wont get any worse. It is well undersealed on the outside so hopefully it isnt too bad when I do get to it which I am aiming to do from October on when I hibernate the car.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: SanRemo78 on August 10, 2026, 06:03:49 PM
Sorry to have spotted that Steve.... I'd recommend that you remove the carpet in the boot and have a really really close look at the joint between the floor and the turret, if you can get a borescope into the box section underneath that where the crossmember is bolted to to check that's solid too. Both sides. Catch it early!

Guy
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on August 10, 2026, 06:11:27 PM
Sorry to have spotted that Steve.... I'd recommend that you remove the carpet in the boot and have a really really close look at the joint between the floor and the turret, if you can get a borescope into the box section underneath that where the crossmember is bolted to to check that's solid too. Both sides. Catch it early!

Guy

I will in Autumn strip the interior out, which I needed to do to an extent in order to have the door cards recovered and then investigate it properly. As luck would have it I purchased and endoscope to look at inside of fuel tank so I can use this to have a good look internally. Going by the mess that was on the boot floor inside and the masking tape stuck over chassis access points I am of the opinion this has been well protected internally but we will look and see. I am grateful you spotted it BTW as better now than in a few years time when it's really bad.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: Ferrit on August 10, 2026, 08:46:51 PM
I wonder what it looks like inside the arch?  It might have a repair patch?  You can stick your scope up the rails easily, takes minutes.
Title: Re: HPE added to my Lancia family
Post by: deks on August 10, 2026, 09:10:32 PM
I wonder what it looks like inside the arch?  It might have a repair patch?  You can stick your scope up the rails easily, takes minutes.

I am assuming the sound deadening fitted was added after some previous repairs.  The car has had a respray at some point so to my mind its a given its had some welding.