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Offline Neil-yaj396

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #40 on: December 12, 2025, 12:15:52 PM »
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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #41 on: December 12, 2025, 04:11:56 PM »
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That looks pretty good, do check the area under the gearbox mount carefully as this often cracks but unusually yours looks good in the photo.

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #42 on: December 13, 2025, 12:12:49 PM »
Check the wishbones are straight and without cracks before powder coating!

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #43 on: January 29, 2026, 10:05:09 AM »
Unlike the body resto the mechanical work which I took to be straightforward has fought me all the way. First the non-working head gasket then when the garage were getting ready to drive the car off the ramp after final assembly the clutch would not disengage.

The collar of the new plate is bigger than the old one and this is fouling on the splines. I just can't see how this is happening when the 2 parts of the new clutch came as a kit?


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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #44 on: January 29, 2026, 10:05:27 AM »
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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2026, 11:48:14 AM »
Life could be worse...

This man had the same issue as you in his R8 and its has destroyed the new gearbox and engine

https://youtu.be/rZxYxYLyWtQ?si=97zV2x9oO2Fv7a5y
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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2026, 12:06:44 PM »
A common mistake is not to lightly grease the input shaft/friction disk. Without grease the plate struggles to disengage....

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2026, 06:34:00 PM »
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That looks pretty good, do check the area under the gearbox mount carefully as this often cracks but unusually yours looks good in the photo.

I concur. Every subframe I’ve dropped out (dozens) has been cracked once you bare metal and inspect.
I’ve just cut my one out and remade with thicker gauge metal.
And now they’re all around 40 plus years old the metal fatigue gets worse.
Look carefully.

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2026, 09:34:15 PM »
I concur. Every subframe I’ve dropped out (dozens) has been cracked once you bare metal and inspect.
I’ve just cut my one out and remade with thicker gauge metal.
And now they’re all around 40 plus years old the metal fatigue gets worse.
Look carefully.

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You mean eventually the engines might ACTUALLY fall out ?   :)

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2026, 10:06:15 PM »
Unlike the body resto the mechanical work which I took to be straightforward has fought me all the way. First the non-working head gasket then when the garage were getting ready to drive the car off the ramp after final assembly the clutch would not disengage.

The collar of the new plate is bigger than the old one and this is fouling on the splines. I just can't see how this is happening when the 2 parts of the new clutch came as a kit?

Neil,
The friction disc doesn't move more than a millimetre on the spline. It's much
more likely that the release bearing is fouling, in that the splined centre is deeper, not thicker.
Measure in the other axis as well.
Also check that the friction disc was installed the correct way around.
That is also more likely.

Nigel
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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #50 on: April 06, 2026, 01:57:10 PM »
I only got the Coupe back 10 days before my trip to Thailand so literally drove it home from Otley in the pouring rain and chucked it in the garage where it stayed until I returned. Our trip was extended by four days due to the ongoing closures of Dubai airport and we were lucky to get a flight home via Paris at no extra cost.

The wet drive home was however something of a revelation; the clutch is now extremely light, considerably lighter than both my ie Coupes, which were both similar to how this clutch was pre-restoration. It’s also lighter than my previous 1300 Coupe which was hitherto the best of the bunch. The engine also revs and pulls noticeably stronger, although there is still possibly some adjustment needed to the idle stop on the carb. So, so far so good, with a nice drive up into the Dales for my birthday last week.

The only downsides I’ve found so far are that my windscreen washer pump was somehow broken from the tank and refitted with sealant rather than the internal locating clip. The sealant didn’t work. Also, neither of the fuel lines were properly tightened up at the carb. Bizarrely they didn’t start noticeably leaking until my second drive out in the car.

So, as I’ve been tardy in maintaining this thread, a summary of the work done;

Cylinder head removed and fully refurbished. Refitted via the failed NOS gasket which was replaced with a new one sourced in Germany. The cambelt and water pump were replaced during this process, along with the front and rear crankshaft oil seals.

Engine subframe stripped and powder coated.

All engine mountings replaced.

Clutch fully replaced. Again, more stress when the parts I has bought did not fit. Ultimately the original clutch was refurbished by a firm in Keighley. It seems, contrary to general thought, that the Facelift 1300 Coupe did not share the 1600 clutch, despite apparently sharing the same gearbox. The input shaft oil seal was also replaced.

All coolant hoses replaced.

Steering rack boot, wing grommets and track rod ends replaced.

All front suspension bushes replaced.

Front wheel bearings replaced. Nigel was correct in his diagnosis of the offside one being the source of the very annoying ‘whirr’ at speed.

Front flexible brake pipes replaced.

After a bit of negotiation I wasn’t charged for the clutch debacle. I wish I had the gumption, knowledge, facilities and energy to do this work myself, but I’d probably have messed it up and overall, I’m very happy with the outcome and with now owning a car I can hopefully use for many years ahead.


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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #51 on: April 06, 2026, 06:48:47 PM »
Well done and just in time  for the better weather!

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #52 on: April 06, 2026, 10:17:14 PM »
Hi Neil

Glad to see you have it back and had not fully realised the amount of work being undertaken. Should be good for many years now.

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Re: FNC - The Restoration
« Reply #53 on: April 11, 2026, 03:17:15 PM »
Well done Neil. There’s no shame in bringing in help when needed and far better to be able to have your Beta back on the road than continuing to grind your teeth in the garage!!
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