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Offline targa2000

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« on: October 17, 2012, 10:33:49 PM »
Hello,
please could you advise on which models part no 82301005 is compatible with,I have a pair of new Koni inserts and have no idea what they fit.
Many thanks Tim
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Re: inserts
« Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 11:45:58 PM »
Just got home bit late now but I will try to check tomorrow night
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 05:20:46 AM »
very much appreciated,Thank you.
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 08:04:08 AM »
that number is for series 1 berlina front strut assembly
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 09:50:54 AM »
Many thanks for the speedy response,thought it was to good to be true that they'd fit my spider!
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 12:26:57 PM »
Does anyone know if these are the same pattern as the HPE shock inserts? I am just about to take mine apart, and Mark from Betaboyz tells me that I have Belina struts on my HPE. If so, does this alter anything like ride height or rebound characteristics  etc.
If my old Belina struts are past it I might be interested.
Thanks Guys.
Best,
Chas and Anne. :)
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Re: inserts
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 12:33:49 PM »
HPE uses coupé/spider struts on front, berlina sized struts on rear. I think that berlina struts would be too tall at the front but I'd have to check the dimensions when at home to confirm.
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« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 01:06:20 PM »
Yes, They would be way too tall for the front - I'll post up a picture of the front and rear inserts for Coupe/HPE/Spider.  Will also add dimensions.

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« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 04:30:40 PM »
Shorter front insert is 320mm  x 38mm (the blue body section only)

Longer rear insert is 445mm x 45mm (again the blue body section only)

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Re: inserts
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 06:57:54 PM »
Part number on the Koni box is 82P1925, hopefully someone can confirm which vehicle they fit.
The part number on my first post was given to me by the guy who I bought them from.
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« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2012, 02:37:49 PM »
Got my hands on the inserts today, good news they match the dimensions that Matt listed.
Will be fitting them to the spider along with the new uprated/lowered springs.
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« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2012, 03:06:18 PM »
Quote from: targa2000 on October 18, 2012, 09:50:54 AM
Many thanks for the speedy response,thought it was to good to be true that they'd fit my spider!

That must be the front insert for £17.90 on Fleabay????
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« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2012, 07:05:33 PM »
Matt not that one,whilst working away down in Sidmouth this week I couldnt sleep due to the storm blowing in so went on e-bay at 4 am  and there was a buy it now listing for a pair of new Koni inserts, the listing said they were for a coupe but the numbers didnt seem to match up,anyway I took a punt as they were under £50.00 and as luck has it they match the dimensions you listed,thanks for that.
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Re: inserts
« Reply #13 on: October 23, 2012, 12:38:56 PM »
Dear Matt,
thanks for the picture of the strut inserts I require. Whilst at Mark's Barn this weekend he kindly helped me out with some front Sachs shocks for my HPE, but I don't know if I can afford some new rear KYB inserts. Do you or anyone else have a pair that will fit my Sachs rear bodies (that Mark says are fine for re-use)? Or failing that a pair of rear shocks complete either NOS or low mileage?
All the best,
Chas and Anne. :)
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« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2012, 02:25:06 PM »
To stop this going off topic can you post your requirement in the Wanted section please?  Makes it easier for everyone to find :-)

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Re: inserts
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 04:58:18 PM »
Please can I make a request for the OE number for a 1984 HPE Volumex rear shock absorber assy. You have informed me that they are the same as the Berlina on the rear, (but the front is the same as the Coupe).
I am trying to track down a pair of replacements and this will be very helpful.
Thanks guys.
best,
Chas. :)
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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2012, 03:39:47 PM »
Quote from: VXdeMayo on October 26, 2012, 04:58:18 PM
Please can I make a request for the OE number for a 1984 HPE Volumex rear shock absorber assy. You have informed me that they are the same as the Berlina on the rear, (but the front is the same as the Coupe).
I am trying to track down a pair of replacements and this will be very helpful.
Thanks guys.
best,
Chas. :)

82395815 this is for S2FL2 HPE they are same dimensions as berlina. I checked the trevi  microfiche and trevi rear dampers have the same part number

I am not 100% confident on this but sachs part number is probably 110-190

http://www.piecesauto.com/fr/Jeu+de+2+amortisseurs+avant+ou+arriere/SACHS+110190.854.7739.7598.html#montage

I found the following cross references on line (which may or may not be right)


ALINQUANT: 548010
BILSTEIN: P 36-0093
GABRIEL: 44880
Havam: KS3190
HELLA: A 548 010
Japca: 167399
KONI: 86 W-2118 - 86-2118 - 87 W-2118 - 87-2118
MONROE: MG-946 - MR-946
SACHS: 11 1500 110 190
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Re: inserts
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2012, 10:40:02 AM »
Dear Rossocorsa,
thanks for that info, it was very useful. However I do not recognise the OE number as one that I have been quoted, (A supplier gave me about 7 similar numbers but none that match up:
OE Number:
82301005
82346277
82341690
 (These poss refer to the front shock and the equivelent KYB number is 365009).

OE number:
82287222
82346273
82315779
82341685
 (These poss refer to the REAR shock and the equivelent number KYB number is 365010).

What do you think?
I have checked the Sachs front and rear numbers on my units and the numbers you quote match up. ie:
Front HPE: 16 1500 110 191.
Rear  HPE: 11 1500 110 190.

So the final question is which if any of the "OE" numbers quoted to me are correct do I actually need to order?

Thanks once again for your assistance.
Best,
Chas and Anne. ???
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« Reply #18 on: October 28, 2012, 10:53:29 AM »
oe that I quoted is for complete sealed strut unit they only supplied complete units on these later series
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Re: inserts
« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2012, 11:45:19 AM »
Quote from: VXdeMayo on October 28, 2012, 10:40:02 AM
Dear Rossocorsa,
thanks for that info, it was very useful. However I do not recognise the OE number as one that I have been quoted, (A supplier gave me about 7 similar numbers but none that match up:
OE Number:
82301005berlina s1 complete strut front s2 berlina 1.3 front
82346277 superceded part I don't know what it was for!
82341690 s2 berlina front
82327791s2 coupe spider hpe front
82341684s2 coupe spider hpe front I don't know how/why this differs from the one above!
82346272coupe hpe s2FL front
82395527 coupe hpe s2FL2 front
(These poss refer to the front shock and the equivelent KYB number is 365009).
OE number:
82287222berlina s1 rear s2 berlina 1.3(presumably would fit HPE as well)
82346273 superceded part I don't know what it was for!
82315779berlina s1 rear (presumably would fit HPE as well)
82341685 s2 berlina/hpe
82341688 s2 coupe spider rear
82346274coupe s2FL rear
82346273hpe s2FL rear
82395815 hpe/trevi s2 FL2 rear
82395817coupe s2fl2 rear
 (These poss refer to the REAR shock and the equivelent number KYB number is 365010).

What do you think?
I have checked the Sachs front and rear numbers on my units and the numbers you quote match up. ie:
Front HPE: 16 1500 110 191.
Rear  HPE: 11 1500 110 190.

So the final question is which if any of the "OE" numbers quoted to me are correct do I actually need to order?

Thanks once again for your assistance.
Best,
Chas and Anne. ???

from S2FL onwards struts were sealed units, very early S1 coupe units appear to have smaller diameter inserts than later cars

above part numbers are all for complete struts I've got a bit cross eyed with all these and no time to double check them all so use this list with caution in case of typos or transpositions!

no one makes these units any more so it's a case of watching ebay like a hawk
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