1300 Coupes

[gillybeta]

there could be another  - a morroco beige colour with orange cloth interior pre fl. the number plate -
DOO 43T . this car i last saw in 2007 owned by a LMC member who lives local to me. he sold the car to a dealer from Swindon at this time . the car was  in very good condition so should still be out there somewhere.

[rossocorsa]

there could be another  - a morroco beige colour with orange cloth interior pre fl. the number plate -
DOO 43T . this car i last saw in 2007 owned by a LMC member who lives local to me. he sold the car to a dealer from Swindon at this time . the car was  in very good condition so should still be out there somewhere.

Checked on line it's both taxed and tested, lacks the slightly bizarre charisma of YAJ though.....

[Neil-yaj396]

there could be another  - a morroco beige colour with orange cloth interior pre fl. the number plate -
DOO 43T . this car i last saw in 2007 owned by a LMC member who lives local to me. he sold the car to a dealer from Swindon at this time . the car was  in very good condition so should still be out there somewhere.

Checked on line it's both taxed and tested, lacks the slightly bizarre charisma of YAJ though.....

I'm guessing this is the 'gold' car seen by Paul Greenway in Manchester. He also mentioned orange seats, so I can't see there being another so similar. I'm thinking this maybe makes a full house! Pity the owners of DOO & YEG don't seem to be on the Forum here.

[rossocorsa]

Well there are several hundred betas out there and just a handful of folks regularly on here

[Neil-yaj396]

BTW - the matt black pre-facelift trim looks particularly odd against the beige paintwork!

[HFStuart]

Well there are several hundred betas out there and just a handful of folks regularly on here

In the world perhaps  - not sure the UK population makes it to several hundred.

[rossocorsa]

Well there are several hundred betas out there and just a handful of folks regularly on here

In the world perhaps  - not sure the UK population makes it to several hundred.

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/family/lancia_beta

Plus those not listed as beta on the dvla database


http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/family/lancia_coupe

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/lancia_cpe_2000_i#

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/family/lancia_hpe

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/vehicle/lancia_spyder_1600

http://www.howmanyleft.co.uk/family/lancia_trevi


In addition there are always cars that were stored prior to sorn requirement and those in the hands of motor traders.

If we take 2013 quarter 2 as a good indicator of those cars on the road (as most folks tax for spring/summer) that gives 180 taxed 350 sorn removing beta montecarlo we end up at 137 taxed 296 sorn even allowing for some cars on sorn probably being broken up it is still a surprising number and does not include cars in the no mans land of dealers, pre sorn or I think Northern Ireland and any cars personally imported at a later date (those would list as lancia other) . I think we sometimes forget that betas sold in large numbers here.
 I imagine the worldwide total of betas is still in the thousands especially in Italy

[Neil-yaj396]

The 180 taxed is about what I'd have guessed, but surprised at the 350 SORN. Wonder how many will ever make it back to the road?!

If my 1300 Coupe research is correct then they make up less than 3% of the taxed Betas. Wonder if there are any 1300 Saloons left?

[rossocorsa]

There's definitely at least one berlina the how many left figures for cars with 1297 or 1301 fitted is 5 taxed 10 sorn

[rossocorsa]

The 180 taxed is about what I'd have guessed, but surprised at the 350 SORN. Wonder how many will ever make it back to the road?!

Well hopefully mine will, if I ever have any spare funds for paint and so on that is

[Neil-yaj396]

There's definitely at least one berlina the how many left figures for cars with 1297 or 1301 fitted is 5 taxed 10 sorn

We are up to five Coupes, so none of the taxed cars are saloons. Out of ten on SORN the odds would favour at least a few saloons though I guess. My facelift Coupe is erroneously recorded as 1297cc on the V5 rather than 1301 and even has '1600 Coupe' entered in the model box.

[rossocorsa]

There's is definitely one 1300 berlina in use, the how many left  figures are only a snap shot so can never be taken as 100% accurate only a close guide
Registration number: NTX 811R
✔ Taxed
Expires: 01 September 2014
✔ MOT
Expires: 04 March 2015
Vehicle excise duty
Vehicle excise duty rate for vehicle
6 Month rate    £79.75
12 Month rate    £145.00
Vehicle details
Vehicle make LANCIA Date of first registration 03 September 1976 Year of manufacture 1976 Cylinder capacity (cc) 1300cc CO₂Emissions Not available Fuel type PETROL Tax class PRIVATE/LIGHT GOODS (PLG) Export marker No Vehicle status Tax not due Vehicle colour MAROON Vehicle type approval Not available

[GerardJPC]

I have seen (and parked YAJ next to one of the 1300 Berlinas).  It's a one family ownership minter and IIRC I posted a photo of it some pages back.  Another 1300 Beerlina was for sale on carandclassic a while back at what looked to me a slightly ambitious asking price.

A fair few of my car nut friends have taken a twirl in YAJ and all agree that it is just a hilarious grin machine despite its shonky extrerior and kronky low speed steering  (New rack still to go on).    All are amazed that it is just a 1300, but my mech says that a good Italian twin cam tends more or less to give 1600 ish  for 1300, 2000 ish for 1600 and so on when compared with engines of the same era from other countries.    Even though the car looks as scabby as a scabby thing, it still garners much kerbside and filling station admiration and banter.

[GerardJPC]

there could be another  - a morroco beige colour with orange cloth interior pre fl. the number plate -
DOO 43T . this car i last saw in 2007 owned by a LMC member who lives local to me. he sold the car to a dealer from Swindon at this time . the car was  in very good condition so should still be out there somewhere.

Checked on line it's both taxed and tested, lacks the slightly bizarre charisma of YAJ though.....

Well, that's one way of putting it!

Did I mention above that when I took my wife for an anniversary dinner at Le Manoir Aux Quat' Saisons in YAJ, the staff let it park out at the front by the main door all night, relegating the mere Porsches and Astons and Ferraris to parking around the back?

[Neil-yaj396]

there could be another  - a morroco beige colour with orange cloth interior pre fl. the number plate -
DOO 43T . this car i last saw in 2007 owned by a LMC member who lives local to me. he sold the car to a dealer from Swindon at this time . the car was  in very good condition so should still be out there somewhere.

Checked on line it's both taxed and tested, lacks the slightly bizarre charisma of YAJ though.....

Well, that's one way of putting it!

Did I mention above that when I took my wife for an anniversary dinner at Le Manoir Aux Quat' Saisons in YAJ, the staff let it park out at the front by the main door all night, relegating the mere Porsches and Astons and Ferraris to parking around the back?

Conversely, YAJ was once thrown out of pole position outside a posh Suffolk gastro pub. The obsequious waiter did however refer to it as that 'lovely midnight blue 'Lanchia' (Italian pronunciation) before asking me to shift it!

[Neil-yaj396]

I have seen (and parked YAJ next to one of the 1300 Berlinas).  It's a one family ownership minter and IIRC I posted a photo of it some pages back. 

Yes it's the one quoted by Rosso above (NTX811R), talk about coincidence. The other may be the one from Holmfirth, then Northern Ireland, though that had a 1600 or even 2000 engine swap after being bought for it's 1300 gearbox for racing use.

[rossocorsa]

No coincidence I'm just observant 

[cheeky monkey]

My facelift Coupe is erroneously recorded as 1297cc on the V5 rather than 1301 and even has '1600 Coupe' entered in the model box.

My car model is marked as 1600 Coupe on the V5 too Neil . On the emissions results paper the tester can and does quote 1297. When i renew my tax disc they quote 1297. Ive asked the DVLA about 1301cc and they don't recognise it and the same for every insurer I've spoken to

G

[Neil-yaj396]

My facelift Coupe is erroneously recorded as 1297cc on the V5 rather than 1301 and even has '1600 Coupe' entered in the model box.

My car model is marked as 1600 Coupe on the V5 too Neil . On the emissions results paper the tester can and does quote 1297. When i renew my tax disc they quote 1297. Ive asked the DVLA about 1301cc and they don't recognise it and the same for every insurer I've spoken to

G

There is only one type of 1300 Coupe available on the LMC database too, so perhaps that comes from the all pervading list of cars that insurance companies etc. use these days? Though I think it is the facelifft that it lists. Strange really about the DVLA, because there were many significant changes on the facelift and you would think they would want it right.

[peteracs]

My 1600 f/l, like a few others, the DVLA has the capacity as 1592 (the pre f/l value), guess when registered they just carried on with the engine as being 'generic Lancia 1600'. An old phrase comes to mind, 'close enough for government work'......

It could of course have been laziness on the dealers, just copying the previous car details when first registering them.

Peter