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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #180 on: August 26, 2025, 09:40:18 PM »
I will take it out as soon as I get time and investigate.
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #181 on: August 27, 2025, 12:43:52 PM »
Think I found my clunking…

https://youtu.be/MKDfbMvqDEM?si=dvsk73RvjwN8uASz

should I be able to stick a fine wire up it?  It seems blocked.
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #182 on: August 29, 2025, 05:44:49 PM »
This is possibly my clonking NS rear noise...  Along with the exhaust and the wheel bearings

How would 'I' fix this?  I have been re-leaning to MIG weld so might give it a go.  I said 'might' ;-)

It looks worse than it is.  Nigel said I should strip the underseal and inside soundproofing next.  Any thoughts?

Mark

PS took it on its biggest drive last night in semi dark, down the A3 and back through Esher.  Even hit 4k rpm :-O

Changed the g'box and diff oil, it was horrible

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #183 on: August 29, 2025, 06:02:32 PM »
Hi Mark

Sorry hard for me to tell. Is it the top mount which has broken or the rubber collapsed?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #184 on: August 29, 2025, 06:37:22 PM »
My point about removing the interior Mark, is to prevent any risk of fire whilst welding, something that would have to be done anyway.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #185 on: August 29, 2025, 09:21:11 PM »
My point about removing the interior Mark, is to prevent any risk of fire whilst welding, something that would have to be done anyway.

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100% understand Nigel.

I think the panel that sits behind the strut, has a spot welded lip at the top looks like some of the welds have given way.  I will strip it of sealant and see if its more obvious.

Wipers also next, was out to see a mate tonight and it rained...  ::)
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #186 on: September 14, 2025, 03:21:19 PM »
So back from France but spent the week on chores and getting my workshop base ready (er).  This morning after puppy watching first thing and picking up George from refereeing I managed a couple hours before the rain appeared on cue after lunch.

So NS door panel off to wax and lube the window mech.  What a surprise to find the door plastics in place.  Missing a bunch of clips but waxed and lubed up the window with silicon spray and see if that helps before a remove and full overall once in the garage.  Metalwork inside the door as always is mint.

Flushed the cooling system a few more times.  I had some rad flush in there for a while on fresh water.  I now used some dissolved dishwasher tabs cleaned the exp tank and ran it up to temp again.  Flushed again.  Now ready to refill but thought I would take the rad out to check and repaint at least, and at the same time replace the vent hose to the filter.  Or do I bin for a catch tank like Nigels? Engine stab. bar bushes need replacing.  I will order those this week.

Took the NS inner wing liners out ready for a clean and wax.  This side is completely mint behind it.

Plan is next to get the rad back in and correct coolant in, full wax is big priority.  Then its wipers etc, brakes and rear wheel bearings.  So far front looks okay.

Oh on the 2nd Oct its booked into a local firm that seems to do a few classics that was recommended by @onefelloff.  Main thing is look at my possible failing spot welds/clonk/exhaust NS rear.  I will see if they can do four wheel tracking also.
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #187 on: September 14, 2025, 09:35:53 PM »
Rad out.  It seems okay and its nice and clean inside.  Mat, satin or gloss black?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #188 on: September 14, 2025, 10:49:44 PM »
Hi Mark

Which part of the rad are you painting?

If it is not necessary I would leave as is as paint will hinder the cooling?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #189 on: September 14, 2025, 11:45:46 PM »
Good point.  Just the ends etc
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #190 on: September 19, 2025, 02:44:12 PM »
Rad out and cleaned up a bit with some Frost Rad Satin Black.  Radiator is a bit ratty, it doesnt leak but I think a winter project to get it refurbed once its in the garage.  I got a price for £400 so far.

Tidyied up and added insulation/heat shrink to some of the leads going to and from the starter, changed a pipe to the airfilter. 

Sprayed the bodywork in front of the subframe, did some wax rustproofing in this area, and leading edge of the bonnet  All back in and new blue antifreeze.  Tested etc.

Wipers now.  I have them loose but gave up for today trying to get them out.  I tried powering them up direct but they seemed dead.  We will see.

Wax injection the other door, now the back panels behind the doors next.

Also talked to a trimmer recommended by a mate in the trade.  I am going to see if I can get my Recaro's covered the same as the current trim.  Possibly a cheaper option to the Vx cloth complete retrim.  All the seats and trim is mint, I just want Recaro's fitted.  I would also like the headlining refreshed.  Sorting the interior is something for a years time maybe. 

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #191 on: September 20, 2025, 10:53:03 PM »
So what a lovely few days of lot of Beta work...

So today I got the wiper mech out after a faff.  Once I powered it straight to the connections on the motor and then moved the mech to the right/middle of the car it was easy-peasey.

First I got my camera up under the bulkhead/scuttle.  Oh my its so clean.  Some tiny surface rust in the corners I will treat, and then spray it with Bilt-Hamber before I put it back together.  I gave it a good wash and unblocked one the rubber drains.  I will clean and re-test the connections at the block connector as they were not working yesterday. 

I then moved on to the ignition switch replacement.  I purchased a new one (from Alan) it was a little worn and I needed a set of keys made as I only have the one for the original.  LHD switch gear next, so set to making plates so to align correctly.  I removed the dash dials/binnacle.  Its a bit of a mess but it all works.  I do have mph.  Not decided what to do yet.  The rubber for the oil level is like new.

The speedo wire connection is a mess, I will order a new one.  Also found this box, I Googled the picture and instantly it found it, amazing. It could be a door entry system, a alarm or a remote door looking/unlocking thing.  It does have working central locking fitted so this could be it?  More investigating is needed..



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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #192 on: September 20, 2025, 10:58:25 PM »
Rustproof it. Do it again. And again. Preserve it. Pickle it so it never rots on you!

I'd almost be tempted to take the screen out so you can get at the inner plastic surround, remove that and get at the retaining clips that keep it in place that WILL have scratched the steel underneath.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #193 on: September 20, 2025, 11:32:08 PM »
I will investigate that for the future Guy.

Mark
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #194 on: September 21, 2025, 11:04:16 PM »
Wipers.  Stripped, cleaned and greased.  Cleaned all the connectors and replaced the sticks.

Its all works well sort of ...  I have intermittent, slow and fast but no park.  Pretty much same if I direct feed the terms on the motor.  Sometimes I can get a park to do something but its not what it should be doing.  Anyone had the motor apart?  I might investigate next and see if its fixable.

https://youtube.com/shorts/KqREZsyon6o?si=QmYspM4zGvpM7oXX


LHD stalks fitted and ignition switch.  Found the the plug for the fog lights so they are working now.  Just need to tidy all this wiring up tomorrow.  I will look at making one good instrument binnacle out of the two I have (I bought one off of ebay ages ago.  Ordered a new speedo cable.

Rust treated the far ends of the scuttle area and Bilt Hamber Dynax-UC treated.

Plan is to make a start on the front discs this week, moving on to hoses, compensator, bleed and then hopefully rear wheel bearings (ordered tonight from Mark).  I am missing the hub nuts and the tool.  Any suggestions?

PS the gizmo is for the central door locking, so back in.  I am thinking one day the dash is coming out and I will sort out it all.



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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #195 on: September 21, 2025, 11:49:36 PM »
Hi Mark

For park, have you checked if you have 12v on blue/black when switch is in off position?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #196 on: September 22, 2025, 12:15:33 AM »
Good point.  I will check.  Silly I didnt do that.  I tried powering up the park contacts on the motor, and mostly nothing
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #197 on: September 22, 2025, 07:58:31 AM »
Park contacts?
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #198 on: September 22, 2025, 01:09:37 PM »
so at the connector (no load/motor disconnected)

Grey - Fast - 11.2
Blue/White - slow - 11.2
Blue  - Int - 10.2
Blue/Black - Park? - off 11.2/int 11.3~10.4

With motor connected and running free (no wipers)

Grey - Fast - 8.9
Blue/White - slow - 9.5
Blue  - Int - 8.6
Blue/Black - Park? - off 11.2/int 11.3~9.5

I guess nothing to loose but strip the motor contacts area?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2025, 02:22:21 PM »
Hi Mark

Did you do the checks as per this?

https://lanciabeta.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=4906.40

In short

Black is GND
Blue i+12V continuous running slow
Grey +12V continuous running fast
Blue/Black +12V runs until park position
Blue/White pulled to ground to stop motor at park position, only gnd when Blue is NOT attached to 12V

Note if you do not GND Blue/White with the motor free running then applying power to blue/black can result in the motor over running park and appears to run continuously. GND to blue/white will bring the motor to a fast stop at the park position.

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