Author Topic: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe  (Read 39164 times)

0 Members and 12 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Nigel

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1285
  • Country: gb
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #200 on: September 22, 2025, 09:55:49 PM »
so at the connector (no load/motor disconnected)

Grey - Fast - 11.2
Blue/White - slow - 11.2
Blue  - Int - 10.2
Blue/Black - Park? - off 11.2/int 11.3~10.4

With motor connected and running free (no wipers)

Grey - Fast - 8.9
Blue/White - slow - 9.5
Blue  - Int - 8.6
Blue/Black - Park? - off 11.2/int 11.3~9.5

I guess nothing to loose but strip the motor contacts area?

Mark

These voltages are indicative of a drop somewhere in the loom, which is what I had.
See if you can trace the wiring backwards from the column through the intermittent relay
through to the wiper motor. Somewhere there will be your fault.

N.
1984 2.0 Carb HPE [ex Aus] Grigio Finanza.
2007 Mazda 6 2.3 [current daily, highly recommended]
The past:
1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
1976 1.6 Coupe Lancia Blu [PFG 76R] [probably deceased]
oh,and an Uno Turbo 1997 also in SA [stolen,never recovered]

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #201 on: September 23, 2025, 06:17:04 PM »
I am going to pop it back in and see how bad it is again.  I have tried to bend the tab back on the park contacts.  the springy thing does move better.  I will try testing again tonight.

Moving on to instruments, anyone have experience of cleaning the pcb - plastic circuit board?

Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA

Offline Nigel

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1285
  • Country: gb
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #202 on: September 23, 2025, 09:29:56 PM »

WD40 brand have a contact cleaner available from Screwfix which does
that job well.
Pay attention to the 3 connector strips that fold over plastic stirrups. This
is a weak area where breakage can occur.

N.
1984 2.0 Carb HPE [ex Aus] Grigio Finanza.
2007 Mazda 6 2.3 [current daily, highly recommended]
The past:
1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
1976 1.6 Coupe Lancia Blu [PFG 76R] [probably deceased]
oh,and an Uno Turbo 1997 also in SA [stolen,never recovered]

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #203 on: September 24, 2025, 05:07:36 PM »
tvm Nigel

Moving on to my planned weekend of works.  Rear Wheel brgs..  Any thoughts on if a 6t cheapo press will handle this work?
Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA

Offline peteracs

  • Administrator
  • Legendary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4778
  • Country: gb
  • Peter Stokes
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #204 on: September 24, 2025, 05:28:39 PM »
Hi

Worked ok for me.

Peter
Beta Spyder S2 pre F/L 1600
Beta HPE S2 pre F/L 1600

Offline rossocorsa

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 2589
  • Country: 00
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #205 on: September 24, 2025, 05:41:19 PM »
Cheap Chinese presses work perfectly for most jobs and are brilliant for many tasks

Offline peteracs

  • Administrator
  • Legendary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4778
  • Country: gb
  • Peter Stokes
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #206 on: September 24, 2025, 08:54:56 PM »
I can vouch for that, some jobs are a real pain without one of them, putting new bearings in is a breeze with one.

Peter
Beta Spyder S2 pre F/L 1600
Beta HPE S2 pre F/L 1600

Offline Nigel

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1285
  • Country: gb
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #207 on: September 24, 2025, 10:01:51 PM »
tvm Nigel

Moving on to my planned weekend of works.  Rear Wheel brgs..  Any thoughts on if a 6t cheapo press will handle this work?

Seconding the others, yes, no problem.

N
1984 2.0 Carb HPE [ex Aus] Grigio Finanza.
2007 Mazda 6 2.3 [current daily, highly recommended]
The past:
1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
1976 1.6 Coupe Lancia Blu [PFG 76R] [probably deceased]
oh,and an Uno Turbo 1997 also in SA [stolen,never recovered]

Offline SanRemo78

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1402
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #208 on: September 24, 2025, 10:11:06 PM »
Useful bit of kit - weight the cost of buying and storing one against the cost of having the bearings pressed in professionally. Might not be much in it? Of course you can always sell the press once you're done with it. That's what I've done with other hydraulic kit once I'm finished even if I know I'll replace it in years to come. And yes, that'll include the mid rise scissor lift once I'm finished!
Guy
Hawk HF3000 - Square Arch Stratos Replica - owned since 1988.
Skoda Superb Scout 2021. Believed 1of 1 in the UK!
Fiat Panda 100HP and now -
A Lancia Beta Coupe 1981 2 Litre

Offline JASPER_40

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 175
  • Country: au
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #209 on: September 25, 2025, 06:14:37 AM »
Fitting a rear bearing with a press is a breeze....However, removing the old bearing can be "entertaining". I have heard tell of people having to grind a slot in the inner race and then chiseling it off the stub axle.

In preparation for undertaking this task on my Beta, I invested in a hub pulling kit which turned out to be relatively useless as this tool just pulls on the outer race causing the whole bearing to break apart leaving just the inner race stuck fast on the axle. The tool just couldnt free the inner race

Thankfully, I can report that the grinding and chiseling method works a treat if you are feeling brave.



Current project in Aus :
1982 Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 (Carb) Aus Delivered
Previously owned in UK:
1984 HPE Volumex
1982 HPE 2000 IE
1979 Coupe 1600

Offline SanRemo78

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1402
Hawk HF3000 - Square Arch Stratos Replica - owned since 1988.
Skoda Superb Scout 2021. Believed 1of 1 in the UK!
Fiat Panda 100HP and now -
A Lancia Beta Coupe 1981 2 Litre

Offline JASPER_40

  • Sr. Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 175
  • Country: au
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #211 on: September 25, 2025, 09:06:35 AM »
Hi Guy,

Yep this is very simlar to the kit I bought and the bolts got over stressed trying to pull the inner race off...hence having to resort to the chisel method.

Maybe I was just unlucky that mine were so stuck on.

Steve
Current project in Aus :
1982 Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 (Carb) Aus Delivered
Previously owned in UK:
1984 HPE Volumex
1982 HPE 2000 IE
1979 Coupe 1600

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #212 on: September 25, 2025, 10:37:30 AM »
Tony said he can help  (y) 8)

I will make a start this weekend - front discs and pads and then rear hubs off.  After that its hoses and 'compensator', thingy.

Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA

Offline SanRemo78

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 1402
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #213 on: September 25, 2025, 10:42:21 AM »
Whilst you're replacing the brake balance compensator keep the original rubber boot, the one I got from Mark wouldn't fit as the tension bar needed to come in from the opposite side. A know problem but if you've chucked the original away it's too late. I'd also have a good look at the state of the bushes in the compensator linkage, mine were broken up and wouldn't have allowed the compensator to work at all. I think Mark carries a suitable stock!

Guy
Hawk HF3000 - Square Arch Stratos Replica - owned since 1988.
Skoda Superb Scout 2021. Believed 1of 1 in the UK!
Fiat Panda 100HP and now -
A Lancia Beta Coupe 1981 2 Litre

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #214 on: September 25, 2025, 10:49:04 AM »
Thank you Guy.  I have been keeping all the old parts so far inc old bushes that have turned to dust, which included these.

I purchased all the bushes and fitted the round ones, just the guide one still to fit
Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA

Offline peteracs

  • Administrator
  • Legendary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4778
  • Country: gb
  • Peter Stokes
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #215 on: September 25, 2025, 03:02:21 PM »
On the rear bearings inner race removal. The hub has two small holes where you can poke a punch to remove the inner race, at least there is on the hubs I have.

Peter
Beta Spyder S2 pre F/L 1600
Beta HPE S2 pre F/L 1600

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #216 on: September 25, 2025, 03:12:35 PM »
not a clue what any of you are talking about.  I guess I will be the end of the weekend  8)
Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA

Offline peteracs

  • Administrator
  • Legendary Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4778
  • Country: gb
  • Peter Stokes
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #217 on: September 25, 2025, 03:39:14 PM »
Hi Mark

When you remove the hub which attaches to the wheel, the bearing outer part normally comes away with the hub, leaving the inner part attached to the spindle part which is attached to the suspension. It is this inner part which can be punched out using the holes (2 opposing) as shown below.

Peter
Beta Spyder S2 pre F/L 1600
Beta HPE S2 pre F/L 1600

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #218 on: September 25, 2025, 04:54:54 PM »
Nice.  Thank you

Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA

Offline Ferrit

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 752
  • Country: gb
  • Mark Ferris
Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #219 on: September 28, 2025, 10:04:02 PM »
This weekend:

New front discs, cleaned new to me steering arm rubber shrouds cleaned and in (OS was an utter ####), wax inj the whole front inner wings, up the A pillar and down the sills as far as I can, whole inner wing etc with Bilt Hamber stuff

Rear hubs out.  Wiper motor back together and back in.  Still no park.  Washers all in and working.  The passenger side is all over the place and is broken.  Wiper work'ish but dont park.  I guess its a new motor, new wires and a relay at some point?

Waiting for 10mm brake tool to show up then sort out the hoses this week hopefully.  Also repainting the brakes from red to black.

Lancia Beta Coupe 2000 SA import, now project
VW Caravelle t5.1 was project
Merc EQA