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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #40 on: September 26, 2025, 12:53:32 PM »
There's no core plug on the gearbox end but there is a big plate, 6 bolts and a gasket for the water jacket there. Access requires the flywheel to be removed. No big bobbie. I suspect the car originally had a full car engine fitted but this was replace with an injection one with the distributor installed and normal carb and manifold from the failed engine. Looks like there is little choice but to rewire the electric pump correctly. I'd also check the engine number against the V5 in case the change wasn't recorded?

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Thats handy if theres no core plug on the back. I am an old skol Ford man you see and I am certain the cross flow did but hey ho. Had a very quick google for for crash sensor and first hit was brilliant and explains it fully and fairly simple to do. I am a very long way from that though but good to know.
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #41 on: September 28, 2025, 03:50:46 PM »
So onto the next stage. Been out and bought myself a rollover jig this afternoon. Only thing is I now need to fabricate and weld some brackets onto it so i can fit the car to it. So next purchase will be a welder.
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« Reply #42 on: October 02, 2025, 07:19:22 PM »
well got it on the jig and put it in the garage. Its not fully stripped yet. Still have more to take off but I was keen to get it in the garage to see if it fits and I want to store it over winter inside rather than out. I am considering building something out front of the garage to allow me to work in all weathers and at some point to paint it myself etc etc.

According to google though a car port comes under permitted development so I may just try and rig up something that will cover the car with a wood frame and polythene sheet covering that I can erect and take down when not in use.  A single garage though isn't ideal for storing a car in along with all the usual junk
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #43 on: October 02, 2025, 09:07:27 PM »
You wait until you see mine it is 1930 semi single garage..  Your garage looks massive
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« Reply #44 on: October 02, 2025, 09:29:22 PM »
For some reason the either the angle or camera has made the garage look wider that it is. It’s just over 3m wide and about 4.5 m long. It’s double skinned. I do have have racking all down one side and across the back and the other wall has my bench which houses the compressor under it plus the obligatory fridge and freezer for the house in it.
Without all the homes stuff in it garage would be plenty big enough to house the car and work on it
So my choices are buy a large shed for the garden to move all the racking of which there are 7 bays.  Build a car port in front of garage to house the car estimate I can build that for £800 from timber. Or buy a clarkes portable garage for £350 ish.

I’ve got so much other stuff in the garage that working in it as it is isn’t an option.  Winters coming so no rush to make a decision. The cars out of the wet for now and I can’t see me starting on all the welding until the spring not least because of light and warmth in the evenings etc
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #45 on: October 02, 2025, 10:46:21 PM »
Hi

The problem is due to modern phone camera which appear to show as portrait on your phone etc, but the forum software thinks it is displayed in landscape, hence stretched.

The solution is normally to edit the photo by rotating 90 degrees, save and then rotate it another 270 degrees to effectively back to where you where, but the meta data with the photo will have changed.

Here is one of the photos

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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #46 on: October 02, 2025, 11:32:08 PM »
The previous owner of my HPE stored it in one of these : https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cig81216-heavy-duty-instant-garage--dar/  He had power and a hydraulic lift as well a full workshop!.
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #47 on: October 03, 2025, 07:53:45 AM »
Hi

The problem is due to modern phone camera which appear to show as portrait on your phone etc, but the forum software thinks it is displayed in landscape, hence stretched.

The solution is normally to edit the photo by rotating 90 degrees, save and then rotate it another 270 degrees to effectively back to where you where, but the meta data with the photo will have changed.

Here is one of the photos

Peter

Thanks Peter, weird how its not done that before and used same camera. I am not over worried to be fair I will keep an eye on and try to ensure I take them in portrait mode rather than turning the camera which I may have done in this case not sure  (y)
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2025, 07:56:24 AM »
The previous owner of my HPE stored it in one of these : https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/clarke-cig81216-heavy-duty-instant-garage--dar/  He had power and a hydraulic lift as well a full workshop!.

I am considering this option but trying to think of long term solution that costs will benefit and thee garage though workable seem to suffer long term degradation from sun and wind.

we shall see what happens re alternatives in due course  (y)
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« Reply #49 on: November 03, 2025, 04:43:23 PM »
So. Not done anything more on the car but I have spent some time building a new home for the car. Decided the garage wasn’t big enough for all the normal junk and the car to be able to work on and access things. So I built myself this in front of the garage. I just have doors to order for the front and one for the side
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2025, 04:49:18 PM »
Wow. I think my neighbours would have a fit I put something like that up, I'm sure you'll get away with it being a temporary structure.... Are you putting any heating in?
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« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2025, 05:33:57 PM »
I checked with the neighbours first, they were fine. The structure only sits 12" roughly above the fence that was already there. The structure is under planning/permitted development height its also behind the build line of my house. When I am done the enclosed sides and the doors will come off so it will be a pure car port.  I do plan to heat it yes. I have a propane workshop heater and also an electric green house heater. As I plan to paint it myself I will need to get a decent dry heat heater though as the gas gives off moisture which I don't really want in the paint but thats a long way off
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #52 on: November 04, 2025, 01:11:17 PM »
Having seen the location, I would say it is very unobtrusive and a natural extension of the garage which impacts no one other than the person living there.

Glad to see you are going ahead with the project!

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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #53 on: November 04, 2025, 01:59:09 PM »
funny how we take years to finish the small items in the bathroom, but knock up a whole workshop in a few evenings!  Get cracking now and you could be done by Spring  ;D
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #54 on: November 04, 2025, 03:26:20 PM »
funny how we take years to finish the small items in the bathroom, but knock up a whole workshop in a few evenings!  Get cracking now and you could be done by Spring  ;D
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I thought it took me a reasonable amount of time to put up but everyone local has commented on how quick I've done it.

Don't think the Lancia  will done anytime soon I dont want to rush it and budget is limited as now not working and my in coming pension is less than unemployment benefit.
I've got to buy a welder first as theres a lot of that to be done but first job is to finish the strip out and then remove all the underseal 
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #55 on: November 04, 2025, 03:34:45 PM »
Having seen the location, I would say it is very unobtrusive and a natural extension of the garage which impacts no one other than the person living there.

Glad to see you are going ahead with the project!

Peter

Thanks Pete. You are correct about obtrusion which I guess maybe why the neighbours were a little perplexed about.

Yes I am going to proceed. I am not going to lie I still wonder about the wisdom of it I know it won't be of financial reward but what I have learnt is no matter how good something looks on the outside it doesnt mean the car is as good as you'd expect so to buy something that cost more money may not lessen the work needed and at least now albeit a few years down the line I will know its right with nothing hidden..

I've no interest in selling it on and no interest in it being a trailer show dolly. Want a respectable useable car I can take out anywhere anytime. I am also considering modifications for example I love the sound of a pair of twin 40's so thats on the list if I can source them and the correct manifold. May look at PAS for the car aswell. I've seen an image on social media of a spyder sitting on steel wheels with chrome caps which I really liked the look of but couldn't find the image again to save it. all things a long way down the road though. First thing is the welder then to purchase a pair of sills as I am definitely going to cut them off so I can check what's behind them.
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #56 on: November 04, 2025, 06:42:45 PM »
must admit I prefer steels (just to be different)

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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2025, 11:00:36 AM »
The standard 1300 steel wheels that were on my car for many years. I think Spiders always had alloys as well as all 2000 Coupes and Spiders.

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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2025, 11:31:42 AM »
Like the look of those though I'd want to add chrome around the outer rim as well as the centre.  Ive got a few years to think about it as plenty to do before I get to the wheels.
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Re: My 79 Beta spyder 2000
« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2025, 10:02:29 PM »
From memory the standard steels were 5" and the alloys 5.5"?

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