Rear Coupe Shcoks

[MattNoVAT]

Im almost certain that Mark W said that KYB stopped making the inserts for rear coupe/spider.  I reckon it's taking time for suppliers to catch up and remove their listings/adverts. Hence the refund.

If I recall correctly he was looking for alternative units that may require minor mods.




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[smithymc]

I think Matt is correct- I have had 2 people 'sell' me the shocks, only to say they don't have ( or cant get) them the next day. I am trying  a third as we speak and will post outcome.

Mark

[smithymc]

And a third indeed - they all must use KYB direct, who have none.

[vancouver]

OK I may have found some shocks...maybe

I have an North American 77 coupe (bumper less) which I use on the street but am turning into a track day car.

I have found a pair of  Koni # 86-1904 fronts for a  Beta Sedan 1975-1976 (which I assume is a Berlina)

and

a pair of Beta Sedan & HPE - Koni Rear Strut Cartridges

Item# KO-87-2118

Questions

Will they physically fit in my 77 Coupe?

and

is the only difference between the shocks for a Coupe and a HPE or a sedan the stiffness - meaning these will ride stiffer that ones for the Coupe

the Coupe is 100 pounds less than the HPE and 200 less than the Sedan

What will be the issues?

Thank you is advance 

[rossocorsa]

neither will fit they are too tall

[vancouver]

OK - if is true they won't fit I know where they can be purchased - just send me a note

[Neil-yaj396]

I thought the front shocks were the same on the Coupe and saloon? Just the rears were different? They seem to be becoming 'crisis parts' either way, made worse by the lack of interchangeability whatever that may or may not be!

[lukasdeopalenica]

berlina rear = HPE rear
coupe front = spider front = HPE front

I can exchange a brand new coupe pair of rear kayaba inserts for a pair of any new pair of HPE/berlina rears

[VXdeMayo]

Dear Vancouver,
As we have a HPE I am possibly interested in the Berlina / HPE rear strut inserts? Could you direct me to the site or advise me of the price?
That would be really helpful.
Best of luck with the search.
Chas and Anne.

[peteracs]

Hi Mark

Trawling through Ebay revealed a few sets of rear inserts for Coupe, NOS and of varying manuf, can send links if you still want any. Obviously no idea if any good, but you will need to be able to use inserts instead of replacement units.

Peter

[smithymc]

Thanks Peter

Anything considered at this point- I have some Spax insets en route from BetaBoyz as we speak, but not sure yet quite how much fabrication will be required to make them fit so would consider alternatives.


This is just one area I was not expecting to have to address as all looked good ( until the trip to the MOT station!)

Regards

Mark

[peteracs]

Hi Mark

All the inserts will require the same amount of fitting as far as I know, so the one from BB should be fine. Only issue will be modding yours if you have the non insert versions.

Let me know how you get on with them.

Peter

[Neil-yaj396]

My grumbling rear OS shock has finally given up the ghost after surviving several MOT advisories and has shed what must be pretty much all it's oil onto the drive (though with no noticeable deterioration in performance!).

I have two inserts but neither came with the gland nut to secure them within my (modified) strut body. The insert came in an Armstrong box. The only markings on it are 010672 678 and Made in England 9 00 41. I also have an identical insert with a Spax sticker on it 'Spax 3280-10-FUT Lancia Rear' Questions;

Does anyone have a suitable gland nut?
There is some play between the insert and the body (obviously without it being locked down in any way). Is this right, or should it be a tight fit?
What is the little steel collar that did come with the insert (picture)?
Are these rear Coupe inserts (they appear to be the right length)?

[HFStuart]

I have a gland nut for a standard body

Same play is normal they should not be too tight a fit

The collar looks like a spacer to me.

Stuart

[Neil-yaj396]

Stuart - PM sent.

[HF Stinger]

Just an update while doing a bit of research:

KYB Premium
Front 663047
Rear 665034

KYB Super
Front 363040
Rear 365040

Monroe Radialmatic (change MR to MG for Gasmatic version)
Front MR833
Rear MR967
Rear (Berlina & HPE) MR946

Sachs Supertouring
Front (Coupe, Spider & HPE) 110191
Front (Berlina) 110189
Rear 110192
Rear (HPE & Berlina) 110190

Spax
Front KYB Premium
Front 663047
Rear 665034

KYB Super
Front 363040
Rear 365040

Monroe Radialmatic (change MR to MG for Gasmatic version)
Front MR833
Rear MR967
Rear (Berlina & HPE) MR946

Sachs Supertouring
Front (Coupe, Spider & HPE) 110191
Front (Berlina) 110189
Rear 110192
Rear (HPE & Berlina) 110190

Spax
Front TAG1136-I
Rear  TAG1157-1
Rear (HPE & Berlina) TAG1158-1