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Offline TreviDash

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2009, 06:36:17 PM »
Someone say Panda?   ;D

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2009, 09:42:42 PM »
I will be going to the Top Gear Screening tomorrow  ;D  ;)

does anyone want to know the outcome  ???

don't want to spoil it for anyone

Cheers Tony,
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2009, 10:14:17 PM »
I will be going to the Top Gear Screening tomorrow  ;D  ;)

does anyone want to know the outcome  ???

don't want to spoil it for anyone

Cheers Tony,

no just tell us all if it's unmissable or to be avoided!

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2009, 09:59:19 AM »
Just make sure JC asks you which car you've got  :P
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2009, 11:31:14 AM »
   We have yet to see the Top Gear show in question but it is really popular down here. I agree with the advice to not panic. Our local media has also rubbished cars over the years but if you are an enthusiast that rubbishing matters not.
    The dreadful Leyland P76, the early Volvo oileaters, recent Ford models, many Korean el-cheapos have all received the bad reviews that they probably deserved.
     The Lancias that have survived are usually in good shape because somebody loved them. Luckilly I have one of the best.

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #45 on: November 25, 2009, 12:32:39 PM »
Here Here Kev !  Well said
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #46 on: November 25, 2009, 01:45:17 PM »

Lets all just watch the programme and see what the outcome reveals. I like many others don't care if we Beta lovers take yet another knock- assuming we do, what can happen apart from a bit of banter from your mates and collegues- nothing that hasn't been said before or will be related to again.
Only positives will come from this and raise the models profile. Have Marina owners all got rid of their cars? Have all caravanners disappeared into the woodwork? I very much doubt it. Neither will we.
The good thing about Betas was they were always very good cars and gained only praise throughout production, test reporters loved em and remember 10,000 were sold in the UK in '78, 3 times the number of all BMW's.
Lancia were their own worst enemy at the time in recalling the cars, they should like everyone else in a similar position (and there were many others) have kept quiet. This is the sole reason the Express/Thats Life shot Lancia- The executive brand- down and brought down the companies reputation. It just so happened that the Beta was Lancias main product at the time and became the scapegoat, the butt of all jokes.
Marina owners never had a good car to get excited about but they still enthuse about them.
We've got a great product and despite all the bumpers falling off and flames I should imagine the parting quip will be positive. (Fingers crossed).
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #47 on: November 25, 2009, 09:53:11 PM »
not giving any show details away, just a couple of studio pic's

http://www.flickr.com/photos/tonysphotos/sets/72157622875982688/

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #48 on: November 25, 2009, 10:47:06 PM »
looking forward to the finished programme,
I may even BUY a bottle of London Dry......

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #49 on: November 27, 2009, 01:52:23 PM »
Who's is the UK registered new Delta ?

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #50 on: November 27, 2009, 04:30:48 PM »
it's the guy who used to have a lybra as usual memory like a sieve can't remember his name it's a 190bhp diesel but it has had it's ecu upgraded to well over 200 it looks massive compared to a beta berlina 

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #51 on: November 27, 2009, 07:34:27 PM »
Stu Wilson has the New Delta and I like it

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #52 on: November 29, 2009, 06:34:58 PM »
it's the guy who used to have a lybra as usual memory like a sieve can't remember his name it's a 190bhp diesel but it has had it's ecu upgraded to well over 200 it looks massive compared to a beta berlina 

I bet - if they ever bring it to the UK (last I heard plans were shelved due to the economy) it's top of my company car list, odd looks from the front, great from most other angles and hopefully without the bone hard ride of the BM / Audi brigade. The only downside seems to be it's a bit big and needs to go on a diet.

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #53 on: November 29, 2009, 06:52:49 PM »
Does it....   8)

Forget the Delta name and the comparison with Beta...

It's 7cm wider and just 6cm shorter than Gamma Berlina!  And we used to think them a bit large at one time...
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #54 on: November 29, 2009, 10:09:10 PM »
Well, getting back to the original thread I thought the Lancia feature was very good actually.  Mostly positive, the obvious history around the Beta and a few facts (all the Lancia firsts).

I laughed out loud as much as I would on any other Top Gear show.  So it cannot have been that bad, plus I came away from watching it without thinking I will be ridiculed endlessly about my cars or my fondness of Lancias by my petrolhead mates.

Great stuff - good to see the Marque get some exposure  ;D

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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2009, 10:20:33 PM »
I thought the alfa V6 sounded dreadfuly flat in that Hawk though.

Unlike the first shot of the Fulvia which was spine tingling.

EDIT: Looks like it was good publicity though - 11 members and 13 guests online as I type this !
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2009, 10:22:41 PM »
Following on from Matt, I thought it was another brilliant top gear show, I thought it was generally hilarious and mostly true, and had to laugh when the bonnet came flying off the coupe as well as every other panel.
Clarkson picked a great rally car, the HPE of course  ;) did he know of the success of the group n rally HPE's finishing 2nd and 3rd in 1982, i'd like to think so 8)
Shame they had to call the kit car a Lancia, but some positive stuff.
Lancia, the greatest car manufacturer in the wwwwoooooooorrrrllllldd  ;D
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BBC Top Gear Programme - Lancia Feature 29th Nov 2009
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2009, 10:23:57 PM »

I enjoyed that....more than i expected to anyway.  A decent amount of time dedicated to Lancia. Even if the beta was'nt portrayed in the most positive light I can take what was said on the chin.
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Re: Beta HPE on Top Gear
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2009, 10:45:36 PM »
it was a typical entertaining show didn't see the point of the hawk which didn't appear to be a well sorted example and they seem to forget that Fiat were in charge when the 'grale gamma 037 and so on were produced but that's artistic licence. I think they should have put the Stig in a Marina and a Beta berlina just to prove how far ahead lancia were in those days or maybe not ....perhaps a Cortina just to prove their less than educated audience that Ford have made plenty of crap
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Re: BBC Top Gear Programme - Lancia Feature 29th Nov 2009
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2009, 10:51:11 PM »
actually they weren't that negative about the Beta they basically said everything lancia did was brilliant if not always 100% successful and they were all beautiful they didn't exclude any of the  cars from that. They kind of forgot that the monte is actually a Fiat, even down to its chassis number, but one that Lancia eventually put right after inheriting the bad bits at the last moment