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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #540 on: June 27, 2025, 01:54:08 PM »
Conscious i am someone elses blog, but please on the kn0bs :-)
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #541 on: June 27, 2025, 02:59:48 PM »
No problem Mark - send me an email with your address and I'll drop them in the post to you.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #542 on: June 27, 2025, 03:02:25 PM »
I believe there is also a bracket somewhere on the floor to hold the warning triangle? Can't show you where as my own car is, as always, in bits.

That's an awful thing to say! I have neither the bracket, the warning triangle nor the holes in the floor for any of said bracketry. Photographic proof or it never existed. (Anyone with said bracketry and triangle please let me know! Beer tokens waiting!)
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #543 on: June 27, 2025, 04:15:05 PM »
Ah the warning triangle.....

Normal one say £10, Lancia original were going for silly money when I tried to find one!

I think it was an option from memory

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #544 on: June 27, 2025, 04:19:05 PM »
Ah the warning triangle.....

Normal one say £10, Lancia original we're going for silly money when I tried to find one!

I think it was an option from memory

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It's just a standard style triangle with Lancia embossed on the case, not really essential but nice to have

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #545 on: June 29, 2025, 10:43:27 AM »
Ah the warning triangle.....

Normal one say £10, Lancia original we're going for silly money when I tried to find one!

I think it was an option from memory

Peter
It's just a standard style triangle with Lancia embossed on the case, not really essential but nice to have

A bit like the torch then? Well, I have one of those but the case is seized...
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #546 on: June 29, 2025, 12:43:22 PM »
Here is a Lancia triangle on EBay in Italy, £104 anyone.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/267102386764

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #547 on: June 29, 2025, 03:31:12 PM »
 :)

I have one but fine its not an expensive Lancia one.  So where did it go?

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #548 on: June 29, 2025, 05:29:51 PM »
:)

I have one but fine its not an expensive Lancia one.  So where did it go?
Good question I need to find out if I imagined the whole thing😂 I remember researching a clip that we found though and that's what it was for!  I'll get back to you. In had a look in my boot but it is completely stripped out. It's so long since I did anything to the car that my mind is blurred. Lancia variations are so confusing!
Your boot floor looks fantastic and original by the way!
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #549 on: June 29, 2025, 07:13:07 PM »
I think it's the item marked in red, fitted on or near the back panel? Might be wrong it's so long since I actually worked on the Beta that my memory is getting vague at best and probably I shouldn't comment on stuff any more 😂

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #550 on: June 29, 2025, 09:24:16 PM »
I think I have the nylon mounting point.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #551 on: June 29, 2025, 10:49:25 PM »
Okay, that's a bracket for something and it's not the jack! Odd how they made brackets to put the jack on the left side on RHD cars and right on LHD cars.

So, that's something else to research further, trace and fit. Or not. I think an ordinary triangle will do at those prices.

Mark, I've found one knurled nut for the rear carpet fixing. I'm sure there will be another floating around the garage waiting to be found. Please email me your address and I'll drop it/them in the post to you.

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #552 on: July 01, 2025, 06:18:24 PM »
Christmas today - a parcel containing a new Facet Silver Top fuel pump and a Malpassi Filter King. Plus a note from the supplier (FastRoadCars - thanks Nigel) that the pump has to be installed vertically. Which I'd hoped wouldn't be the case, I'd wanted to install it horizontally as per the injection/VX cars. So, lots of head scratching aided by dry fitting the fuel tank and it's all a little tight under there but I've managed to get a temporary install in a near vertical position. Downside was that I had to drill the freshly painted crossmember but I can live with that. I'll be a final fit when a pair of thinner rubber mounting bobbins arrive, the 20mm ones supplied leave the inlet barb too close to the filler pipe underneath the back of the car.

Photo attached to show where it is but the fuel tank is now nailed in place permanently with all the fuel hoses attached and routed. I've used DIN 93379 braided hose to keep it looking original, research shows it's R9 standard.

Last steps on the fuel tank will be connecting the rubber joiner for the filler neck and a couple of jubilee clips and that's done until I need to sort electrical connections.

Tomorrow will see me continuing the install of the Filter King. i've seen installations  with the Filter King hung off the underside of the strut tower to slam panel support but I've decided that I'm going to fit it to the back of the slam panel behind the headlights. I think it'll fit there and still allow access to the headlight adjusters. Once it's in place the last job will be running the hard fuel line from front to rear. Unfortunately the original one isn't going to be much of a pattern part as the new one will be terminating further down the inner wing than the original and I might route it beneath the inner wing box section rather than on top.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #553 on: July 01, 2025, 08:44:22 PM »
Guy,
Photo tricky to interpret, but I'd move the pump inboard and up to avoid
possible interference with suspension parts. A fabricated bracket would be needed though.

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #554 on: July 01, 2025, 09:24:27 PM »
It is a very slight concern Nigel but I'm reasonably confident that it'll clear the suspension on compression. I will be keeping a very close eye on it! Trouble is, there really isn't much choice with this pump for the installation. If it fouls at all I'll have to resort to another type but I'm not sure if the cube type Facets will fit or if an injection/VX type will be too powerful for the Filter King.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #555 on: July 07, 2025, 07:14:34 PM »
After Nigels comments on the pump position I revisited today and decided that the installation would likely get fouled on full compression of the rear suspension by the rear transverse arm. Well, cannot have that happening can we!

So I looked into positioning the pump at the front of the car but that's a non starter so the only other option was to fit a cube type pump or reposition the new Silver top. So, with a bit of head scratching I decided to move it 90 degrees and make a substantial bracket from some aluminium channel I had lying around. The first attempt didn't move it far enough so it needed a filler plate to make sure it cleared both the suspension arm's arc of travel and didn't foul (or come close) to hitting the flange on the fuel tank or the filler pipe. Experiments with thinner bobbins were a waste of time, they had too much flex so the ones supplied with the kit were installed even though that meant installing the bracketry first and then the pump/bobbins. And a word to the wise, don't be tempted to use Nyloc nuts on the bobbins, it can tear the stud loose within the bobbin. Ask me how I know....... That was a pig to change when it started rotating. Lockwasher and standard nut. And I hate how the earth lead is red and power lead black. That could go so wrong!

First and second photos shows (just) a plumb line off the edge of the pump closest to the transverse arm, there's good clearance! Last one the dry assembly on the bench. Tomorrow I hope to run the feed pipe to the front, clip it in place and connect the pipes to the pump and install the Filter King. Then it's off to see Gerry again for a week!

Guy
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #556 on: July 07, 2025, 08:45:11 PM »
Is this what others have done before?

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #557 on: July 07, 2025, 09:00:25 PM »
Pass Mark! My car will have a set of Twin 40 Dell o’rtos. That needs a different fuel system with no mechanical pump and no return line. It uses  pressure regulator to keep the supply right.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #558 on: July 07, 2025, 09:37:13 PM »
Nice bracketry Guy!
And appears to be in a much better position.
Avoid the cube variety, I found it very noisy.

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #559 on: July 07, 2025, 11:37:51 PM »
Photo overload to coming...

First parts reattached were the rear crossmember that was preassembled with two sets of adjustable arms set to the same lengths left and right, front and back. All with Marks polybushes of course!

I have a couple questions Guy, what length should the adjustable transverse links be CtC?  Obv I will look into proper four wheel tracking as soon as I can.

Re: front wishbone bushes - my car didnt have the original bushes, they were hand made, when I fitted Betaboyz bushes the subframe supports are flexing in on one side when I torque to 59nm, any thoughts?

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