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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #820 on: June 26, 2026, 04:32:54 PM »
Hi Guy

Thanks.

Just checked what I have and for the facelift it appears there are two 8 pin and one 6 pin connector. These are what I have presumably from the IE. The pre facelift just has 3 x 6 pin connectors.

Peter

Peter, is there any demand for these plugs ? .......Is this a 3d printer project for someone ?

As Eric says the plastic surrounds for the terminals are normally in excellent condition and it is the availability of the metal terminals which is the issue. On the up side the terminals are actually pretty robust so can be carefully reused. Not ideal, but no obvious modern alternative so far found it is a solution.

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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #821 on: June 27, 2026, 04:48:11 PM »
Thanks for the plugs & terminals Peter, I'll have some fun trying to open them up tomorrow!
Guy
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #822 on: June 27, 2026, 05:15:09 PM »
Just something to do whilst you watch YouTube etc!
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #823 on: June 28, 2026, 01:40:07 PM »
Thanks Peter, the fun has begun! I've managed to remove one terminal from the plug, used a small screwdriver to open the crimp over the outer cable and then pull the inner cable out of the main crimp. Then a small nail through the crimp has opened it up nicely. I haven't tried recrimping yet but I see no reason why it won't be reusable even if I'm using thin wall cable. I'll get back to the rest of them once the Grand Prix is over. I also need to look at wiring colours and order a few meters of suitable wiring to replace what's coming out and also think about the routing and where the wires en up on the engine etc.

Cheers
Guy
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #824 on: June 29, 2026, 11:31:23 AM »
Done. 21 terminals removed from the housing and 19 opened up okay. 2 broke at the weak point between the crimped end and the body. I think drilling holes in the remainder of the tag and soldering the new cables will suffice but if I change my mind later I’ll find another few to sort out.

Right, the strip method was as follows.
First use a jewellers screwdriver to open the end crimp from the plastic cable cover and bend the tabs flap.
Second, gripping the middle crimp in your hand pull the wire out or until it breaks off flush with the bottom of the crimp.
Third put a steel plate in the vice and close it with the terminals flattened tabs trapped up to the still crimped section with this resting on top of the vice.
Fourth step, get a thin nail and a ball pein hammer and start at a slight angle against the terminal to make sure it pushes against the plate in the vice to ensure the terminal doesn’t bend and keep tapping until the nail bottoms out.
Finally, remove from the vice and check all the old wire is out. The flattened end will need to be bent back before it’ll crimp again. I suspect I’ll strip more wire than needed and solder them in place to be sure it’s good.
I’m also planning on using a single multiplug to avoid disturbing these connectors again when the gauge cluster has to come out in future.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #825 on: Today at 09:34:29 AM »
Dash out today to fit the last of the sound deadening and bulkhead grommets.... And therein lies the problem. I think these two belong in there, one above the pedal box and the other to the left of the brake servo mount. Not that I can persuade either to go in yet. So the questions to those who know the answers (I can't see them in the Beta manuals or my disassembly pictures..) are

1. Have I got the right locations for these two?
2. Do the tails protrude into the cabin or the engine bay?

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Guy

Hi

Finally remembered to take a photo of that grommet position you mentioned which does not belong on your car. Here it is installed in the HPE.

Peter
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #826 on: Today at 10:38:09 AM »
Many thanks for that Peter! Do you need a couple of spares?

Yesterday saw the heater box installed for the final time I think. Just need to run the hoses into the engine bay and connect up the aircon piping. I think I've finalised routing for them. Today's task is to reinstall the scrap dash and fabricate the replacement panel to the left of the gauges that will carry a 2DIN head unit plus various switches. Then it's onto mounting a battery cut off relay. I hope I can find a couple of M8 bobbins in the garage... I may be starting the wiring at the weekend. Then a trip to Gerrys' for a week will bring it all to a stop again. Hey ho.
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Re: And So It Begins....
« Reply #827 on: Today at 04:51:43 PM »
Hi Guy

Not needed as I have spares as well

Thanks

Peter
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