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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #40 on: June 17, 2025, 02:56:07 PM »
and as long as I dont find any other horrors, valve shims stay as is?  Engine sounds sweet even with a possible head gasket.  I have bought a Reld Testing Kit so we will see and will update later.

Other questions I have:

Keys, I have one set and any advice or thoughts?

Suspension bushes - any recommendations, I have asked Betaboyz but no reply as yet
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #41 on: June 17, 2025, 06:38:45 PM »
Hi

Mark at Betaboyz can be late to reply, but he has the suspension bushes etc, just complete an order on his website.

On keys I and others have used John

JOHN RICHARD SECURITY PRODUCTS (WIRRAL) LIMITED   
202A PENSBY ROAD
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TEL 0151 342 2318 / 4074
FAX 0151 342 3273

info@locksnkeys.co.uk

He can cut from code number from memory.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2025, 01:36:42 AM »
so tonight tested the head gasket using this kit and it seems okay.   :o  Test fluid stayed blue, got it up to temp and the fan was kicking on and off.  So maybe its fine?  When I changed the oil I have never seen oil this bad before.  I will test the compression when the gauge turns up and look at the plugs.

Fixed the bonnet cable I think.  Still not trusting it, I will check everything is tight.

Battery is not holding a charge still.  I will cycle it a few more times before I buy a new one.

Last before I packed up I stuck a camera up the rear box section, so far I cant see any rust.  Amazing :-)

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2025, 07:56:55 AM »
If head ok, maybe someone put water into oil by mistake?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2025, 01:21:20 PM »
about to order a bunch of stuff for the car.

1" timing belt, I am assuming its just better/stronger, does the cover still fit, or just go for the std 19mm one?

Tension bearing, should I do this as a matter of course or see when I have it in bits?

BitD I did this freehand, should I look for a tool to help?  Sorry its been a while since I have done a cambelt. 

Fuel tubing and gearbox oil, any recommendations where to buy?

Actual list is long.
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2025, 03:05:15 PM »
A quick reply on
Fuel tubing
these days it's best to ensure they're a low permeation type for current (and future) ethanol levels, so R9 rating and definitely from a recognised brand i.e. Gates, Codan or Cohline.  These will have the mandatory FKM inner layer (at least) to meet the spec properly and stop your garage smelling of fumes  - I'd avoid any non-name hose from your favourite auction site  ::)

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2025, 03:28:05 PM »
I use Opie for my oils and they often have 10-15% discounts

I used Cohline R9 a few years ago, no issues with hoses degrading. I also stick to E5. Remember hoses both in engine bay and attached to tank.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2025, 09:34:00 PM »
Mark,
I bought a 1 inch belt for mine but haven't used it yet. Eric gave me some pointers
to look out for, somewhere on my HPE page. I don't really think it's necessary for a standard engine,
and fouling is possible unless you pay attention to certain items.

Yes, change the tensioner bearing, real easy, and readily available (3205-A-ZRS1TN9/HT33 from RS)
No special tools required. Plenty of guidance on here.

Bonnet cables: Prone to issues, to avoid breaking the vent grille for access, I fitted riv-nuts and screws
to allow easy access.

I use 10/60 oil from Mannol.

You may find a date marked on the battery. I would change it anyway. Varta D59 is good.

Nigel
1984 2.0 Carb HPE [ex Aus] Grigio Finanza.
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The past:
1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
1976 1.6 Coupe Lancia Blu [PFG 76R] [probably deceased]
oh,and an Uno Turbo 1997 also in SA [stolen,never recovered]

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2025, 10:28:51 PM »
Just to add a little to the tensioner bearing, the original tensioner comprised of a bearing with an outer metal sleeve which was removable from the bearing. On some third party replacements the outer was not removable from the bearing. New complete tensioners outer + bearing combined are often hard to find. Also remember the 1600 and 2l ones are slightly different diameter, but use the same bearing.

Peter
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #49 on: June 20, 2025, 11:30:48 AM »
Thanks again guys for the useful information.

I am trying to place a large order with Betaboyz but every payment I try is failing.

Can someone give me a really rough estimate of fuel tubing I should order?  Trying to get a bunch of parts on-site so I can just work through some of the jobs.

Nigel that tip for the bonnet release in genius, what size did you use? :-)  I am going to the Lancia Day on Sunday, just for the morning, maybe I will recognise your cars first? ;-)

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #50 on: June 20, 2025, 12:02:11 PM »
Nigel’s is hard to miss!

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #51 on: June 20, 2025, 12:13:26 PM »
On the payment I usually use Paypal, not done it recently but always works for me.

On the hoses I think I bought a couple of metres of both 6 and 8mm hose which should be enough for a carb car. Sadly I do not have the original order to double check. The main run is in the engine bay. The tank run is relatively short. Obviously best to measure up your car and leave some wriggle room!

Hope that helps.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #52 on: June 20, 2025, 09:59:40 PM »
Regarding tappet shims, I'd still do them they can still be out even if it sounds ok. You will probably find that by juggling the shims around that you'll only need a couple of shims to complete the job.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #53 on: June 21, 2025, 01:09:23 AM »
Re: clearances, any recommendations?  Where to get a good tool?
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #54 on: June 21, 2025, 07:35:12 AM »
Hi

See values in Haynes.

Tool is here, though available elsewhere

https://www.aecar.co.uk/products/valve-tappet-shim-tool-fiat-lancia-twin-cam-dohc-8v

Also get a couple of magnets on a stick to help get the shim out.

Peter

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #55 on: June 21, 2025, 06:05:29 PM »
Peter now you are bringing back memories :-)  TVM, see you tomorrow hopefully.  I will have an England Cricket cap on
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #56 on: June 21, 2025, 06:48:52 PM »
Yes, see you tomorrow.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #57 on: June 23, 2025, 11:59:48 PM »
Tank out

Top looks amazing. Underside is thick with stonechip.  I will strip at the weekend and use a smooth light underseal i think.

Stuck a camera inside.  Its clean but a few tiny bits of light rust.  I thought everything was good and i spotted this on the outside.  Inside it looks like this

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #58 on: June 24, 2025, 12:06:34 AM »
Inside shots

first picture is the offending area.  Worst case I guess I do a POR15 process.  Generally it looks really clean, tiny bit of light rust by the filler entrance, and tiny traces where the other pipes are welded in place

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #59 on: June 24, 2025, 12:36:31 AM »
Also found this in the glove compartment, is it from the lock?

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