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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #320 on: January 01, 2026, 02:54:31 PM »
Darren Cooksey at Monte Servicing and Repairs in Kingsclere will source you the correct port cut out the right way round gasket. Note NOT the Integrale Cometic MLS Gasket. The 10mm studs are ARP from your Integrale supplier of Choice. Tanc Barrett has been good to me.

Eric  - can the head be lifted in situ with the studs in on a Beta or do the studs have to be removed first?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #321 on: January 01, 2026, 06:54:34 PM »
Hi Stuart

I have always fitted these heads with 2 dummy studs in the block to guide the head down onto the dowels. Typically old bolts head cut off and slotted for removal with a screwdriver. Inlet manifold on on a beta no issue. Not sure about the exhaust manifold to bulkhead/ fuse box clearance. Probably best to fit the head then the exhaust manifold. Especially with the weight of the OE cast manifold.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #322 on: January 03, 2026, 07:49:39 PM »
So stripped some of the engine parts off today and in the freezing cold, plus been watching Nigel's 131 engine builds and ready my GC book.  Lots to think about and take in.

Parts off today - breather housing, water pump and tube, tensioner bearing (it does need replacing, it seemed fine when I did the cambelt in the summer).  I cleaned up the pistons a little, and oiled the bores.  Next I am going to see if I can get the broken cam tensioner bolt out, then a new bearing.  I might try a dry run with the SS coolant tube I bought from Alan, and replace a bunch of coolant hoses.

After sleeping on it for a few days, for this rebuild I will buy new Ribe studs and a full gasket set.  Maybe when I look at the engine further in the future I will look at more performance oriented parts? 

Re: the head.  Option one is pay someone to check it out and do a full head rebuild, option two is get it skimmed locally and do the rest myself?  Either way I am going to strip it myself and give it a good clean and get the prices.  If I can I will do it myself I think.  I am going to chat to a local engineering company on Monday.  So far I have been quoted £50 for the skim. 

My plan was always just get the car running for 2026 and as economically as possible and get out there and have some fun (not that I dont find all this work fun  8) ).  I did a total of all the parts purchased so far and its a bigger amount than I imagined.  Pretty much all of it is just to make the car be safe and more reliable, well mostly ;-)

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #323 on: January 03, 2026, 07:50:43 PM »
Thank you all for the advice so far.  Lots of useful information.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #324 on: January 04, 2026, 11:15:06 AM »
So stripped some of the engine parts off today and in the freezing cold, plus been watching Nigel's 131 engine builds and ready my GC book.  Lots to think about and take in.

Parts off today - breather housing, water pump and tube, tensioner bearing (it does need replacing, it seemed fine when I did the cambelt in the summer).  I cleaned up the pistons a little, and oiled the bores.  Next I am going to see if I can get the broken cam tensioner bolt out, then a new bearing.  I might try a dry run with the SS coolant tube I bought from Alan, and replace a bunch of coolant hoses.

After sleeping on it for a few days, for this rebuild I will buy new Ribe studs and a full gasket set.  Maybe when I look at the engine further in the future I will look at more performance oriented parts? 

Re: the head.  Option one is pay someone to check it out and do a full head rebuild, option two is get it skimmed locally and do the rest myself?  Either way I am going to strip it myself and give it a good clean and get the prices.  If I can I will do it myself I think.  I am going to chat to a local engineering company on Monday.  So far I have been quoted £50 for the skim. 

My plan was always just get the car running for 2026 and as economically as possible and get out there and have some fun (not that I dont find all this work fun  8) ).  I did a total of all the parts purchased so far and its a bigger amount than I imagined.  Pretty much all of it is just to make the car be safe and more reliable, well mostly ;-)

My local engineering man just did my Fulvia head tricut seats, faced valves, and lapped in and vac tested for £100 just to give you an idea. I did the rest (strip, clean, reassemble). I use him a lot and he gives great service - turnaround in days.... You also want to ensure the skim machine leaves a near polished surface....

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #325 on: January 04, 2026, 11:48:55 AM »
Look very carefully at the water pump condition and if in any doubt change it as well. Also the L shaped hose on the breather. It is VERY disappointing when this fails a couple of months after the re-build. NB you have the later bigger breather stub on your block so you want the VX/IE sized l shaped hose. It must be oil resistant a cut down water hose will fail. 

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #326 on: January 04, 2026, 10:12:22 PM »
Look very carefully at the water pump condition and if in any doubt change it as well. Also the L shaped hose on the breather. It is VERY disappointing when this fails a couple of months after the re-build. NB you have the later bigger breather stub on your block so you want the VX/IE sized l shaped hose. It must be oil resistant a cut down water hose will fail.

I am going to replace a few hoses and this elbow, belt tensioner bearing and I already have a pump.  Tvm
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #327 on: January 04, 2026, 10:18:38 PM »

My local engineering man just did my Fulvia head tricut seats, faced valves, and lapped in and vac tested for £100 just to give you an idea. I did the rest (strip, clean, reassemble). I use him a lot and he gives great service - turnaround in days.... You also want to ensure the skim machine leaves a near polished surface....

That is very interesting.  I need to find someone to do the same locally.
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #328 on: January 05, 2026, 09:32:10 PM »
Mark,
SRS Engineering in Sutton appears to have good reviews. Don't know them though.

Experts:
Is a 'near polished surface' ideal for a head gasket 'grip'? My engineering thought
is that a flat surface is paramount but some machining evidence is not necessarily bad.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #329 on: January 05, 2026, 10:08:19 PM »
Thank you for the help.  Traffic being what it is around here I was thinking I would just bite the bullet and use Kevin's guy down South, Brett Mils Motorosport.  Talked to him today, seems a sound guy.  I will look at SRS now though
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #330 on: January 10, 2026, 11:25:58 PM »
Right head all stripped down ready to go to Bret Mils Motorsport next week.

Question, can this water inlet be replaced?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #331 on: January 10, 2026, 11:39:21 PM »
Right head all stripped down ready to go to Bret Mils Motorsport next week.

Question, can this water inlet be replaced?

I've never heard of anyone replacing one, not sure if it's mentioned in the GC book? I've not seen one as corroded as that before. 

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #332 on: January 11, 2026, 12:13:56 AM »
Hi Mark

Simple answer clean it up and then leave it alone, suspect damaged head if you try to take it out. Yes it looks bad, but if solid will be ok.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #333 on: January 11, 2026, 06:53:08 PM »
They are bonded into the head and an expert Machine shop job to bore out just enough to weaken and remove. Leave well alone if it is structurally sound.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #334 on: January 19, 2026, 03:24:22 PM »
So my chosen engineering co (Brett Sims) to work and check my head has gone AWOL.  Fnally got a reply back from FB Messenger that he is not opening for a month due to illness.  Now what??

3hrs each way to Stanwood isnt looking terrible anymore.  At least I know what I am getting?  I cant find anything locally that fills me with much enthusiasm. 
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #335 on: January 19, 2026, 04:42:27 PM »
Okay found a company that seem to know what they are talking about.  SRS Engineering is Sutton.  I will go over tomorrow
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #336 on: January 19, 2026, 11:34:50 PM »
Top alternator mount has a crushed rubber on it, anyone have a photo of what it should look like?

Part number is 82277375
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #337 on: January 20, 2026, 09:37:55 AM »
It seems to be a Fulvia part also but I can only find it on mainland Europe?

https://shop.historicracing.de/en/p/bushing-alternator-tensioner-fulvia-2-series
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #338 on: January 24, 2026, 07:27:59 PM »
New water pump and breather thingy fitted with a new hose and clips today

cam-belt tensioner tomorrow if its not raining.  I removed the bolts for the drivers seat, and I will strip it out this week so I can finish the rustproofing and take a look at the floors etc.

I should get some news on the head earlier in the week
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #339 on: January 25, 2026, 07:22:12 PM »
All the seats out today.  Every time I find a big spider in my South African imported car should I be scared :-)))) 

Question: How do I take the carpet out along the strip that runs along the inside of the doors?

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