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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #80 on: June 29, 2025, 10:54:09 PM »
I carefully removed mine on stripdown but they are so brittle that removing the pipes usually fractures them.And if they didn't break on removal then pushing a pipe back into them does the trick....

I doubt anyone would be interested in 3D printing these and I've bought a selection of single 3/16th clips, double and triple 3/16th clips plus some combined 3/16th and 5/16th clips to keep the new brake and fuel lines where they need to be. If I have any left over this week I'll happily send the excess down to you!

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2025, 07:29:54 AM »
Hi Guy

Do those new clips fit ok in the existing holes, I have the same job to do and did not want to reuse the originals due to old age?

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2025, 08:51:14 AM »
I'll confirm later today Mark! A trial fit in one hole was encouraging but I haven't punched the holder through it's base yet.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2025, 11:11:44 AM »
Hi Guy

Do those new clips fit ok in the existing holes, I have the same job to do and did not want to reuse the originals due to old age?

Peter

Yes Peter, nice and solid fit, they need a hammer or punch to fit properly. I'm using a rubber mallet rather then a hammer to avoid damaging fresh paintwork. The base is a nice tight fit in the hole and a sharp tap breaks the stem and pushes the clip into the holder pretty easily. Work has got in the way again this morning but, if the temperatures don't go through the roof this afternoon I may get the last of the pipework for the brakes nailed down leaving just the single fuel line to install. Pump and regulator ordered at the weekend to finalise the position and pipe routing later this week.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #84 on: July 01, 2025, 07:47:50 PM »
quick question - bonnet catch adjustment, is this too tight?  This is at rest.

Lots of bits incoming, inc a FedEx delivered bag of oil from Opie, due to bouncing it down the street no doubt

belts, water pump and bolts, oil filter, most of the bushes.  Ordered brake compensator and hoses

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #85 on: July 01, 2025, 08:36:41 PM »
Hi Mark,
Very hard to tell from a photo. A little slack is normally better just to ensure the catches
fully engage. If you have two handles, concentrate on only one first, (drivers side?), get
that working perfectly, then tackle the other one. The rubber buffers play a significant role
in conjunction with the lifting bars on the catches. Aiming the bonnet pins to the catches is also
vital. When testing your set up, make sure the cables are tight: slipping will cause grief!

On your PM question about the bonnet vent, I used 4mm alloy riv-nuts and stainless dome-head screws.
The riv-nuts fit the existing bonnet holes ( about 6mm outside diameter). Drilling and
fettling the grille takes time and care, you have to make room for the screw heads. I used a dremel.

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1980 2.0 HPE White in South Africa [hope it survives!]
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #86 on: July 02, 2025, 11:37:58 AM »
just the one handle, all my other Beta's had two.  Thanks for the tips

Next question, I think I have a oil pump/filter mount from a Vx engine, I am not sure I have enough room for a std filter I have ordered.  Any thoughts?  Sorry for the rubbish stock photo, its tipping down outside :-)
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #87 on: July 02, 2025, 01:00:46 PM »
Hi Mark

The filter I use looks to be the same size is you have (Bosch 3394).

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #88 on: July 02, 2025, 02:01:50 PM »
The picture has stretched.  I will check later
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #89 on: July 02, 2025, 11:35:30 PM »
This car is never going to look like some of the rebuilds here, but hell the underside is pretty darn amazing.  I just dont have the time/space/energy/money to go mad on this.  Yet...  :-)

Its a bit of an enigma, some things are a right old mess, but the body is nuts good in places, and then around the edges its been sprayed with a very tough polyurethane type covering that nothing seems to be able to touch, then on the sills is a old fashioned under-seal that still sticky.  I think a petrol soaked rag would take it off.  I think during the winter I will look into getting this sorted professionally.

Just washed the underside around the tank area that had a coating of African dust.  BiltHamber coating and then tank back in and new tubes.  Still needs final connecting up and bolting home.  Up on blocks and start the bushes at the weekend.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #90 on: July 03, 2025, 08:30:41 AM »
just the one handle, all my other Beta's had two.  Thanks for the tips

Next question, I think I have a oil pump/filter mount from a Vx engine, I am not sure I have enough room for a std filter I have ordered.  Any thoughts?  Sorry for the rubbish stock photo, its tipping down outside :-)
The VX oil pump doesn't fit in a standard sump
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #91 on: July 03, 2025, 11:45:24 AM »
Hi Mark

Looks pretty amazing underneath.

The filter housing is separate to the oil pump.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #92 on: July 06, 2025, 03:57:21 PM »
Any thoughts?  Handbrake cable has different rubber insulation lengths each side.  One is short at c20cm and the other is long at c1m.  I will check the Haynes Manual.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #94 on: July 06, 2025, 04:14:54 PM »
I can't remember any details of why and what but I believe that later cars have different handbrake cables, I'm sure somebody will be along to advise

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #95 on: July 06, 2025, 04:31:28 PM »
I ordered the right one 79 on.  It looks right just the insulation.  I am going with long on exhaust side
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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #96 on: July 06, 2025, 04:44:26 PM »
I had a quick look under mine and that sounds correct

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #97 on: July 06, 2025, 10:34:14 PM »
Thank you Rossocorsa.  I now have a working handbrake :-)

Weekend of work:  Nigel came over for a coffee and helped me with a few pointers

After he had gone I finished my tank re-instillation, connected all the hoses up and got the engine running again.  Then I did the front bushes, they were hand made from brittle nylon type substance and a couple had broken.  ARB on the front actually had newish looking poly-bushes.  Tbh this is the only set of bushes you can get from the normal suppliers I think.  I  have the rear ones baring one set that are only available in orange at the moment.  Rear bushes are shot almost non-existent. 

Today I replaced the handbrake cable, HT leads and started working on the new washer bottle.  One thing which was odd, I noticed a rear piston boot off, so I whipped the caliper off, and when I removed the piston boot off I found a piston seal inside, no leaks though.  I will rebuild this caliper I think.  It must have a seal inside surely?  Put the boot back on and tested again.  Brakes feel really firm tbh.

I cleaned all the calipers and put some pluzgas on the hose connections and nipple thread bases.  I think its all been apart recently it seems, and the nipples are brass and look new.  I have flexy hoses and compensator coming.

This week maybe I will do a compression test, and change the timing belt and pump.

Nigel suggested I get the rad checked out.  I will price this out and order a new rotor arm and a battery as it seems pretty dead.  I keep conditioning it but I will not hold on to a charge.  I guess it could be something else but this is worth a try first.

All the lights are working. I didnt test the brake lights though as I was on my own.  New washer motor works from the switchgear, I was concerned at this stalk is repaired.

So I need battery, caliper rebuild kit, look at the missing rear bushes so maybe they will have to be orange?  I need a bunch of nuts and bolt also.

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #98 on: July 07, 2025, 09:05:23 AM »
Re  handbrake I think I read your dimensions in a hurry confused myself and I might be wrong, I will have another look today and check again! Apologies if it  turns out I'm wrong!

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Re: SA Import Beta 2000 Coupe
« Reply #99 on: July 07, 2025, 12:41:45 PM »
Hi Mark, I don’t think it’s critical but I noticed that the bolts attaching the rear anti roll bar are bolted to the rear hub with the nut on the inside. This means you can’t remove the bolt easily. If you need to put it right you’ll need to remove the wheel, calliper carrier and disc, undo the three 10mm bolts holding the dust shields so you can rotate them to clear the bolt for removal.

I checked the Lancia parts book which clearly shows the bolts go on from the hub side. I’ll invite others to offer an opinion as to whether this needs putting right or if it’s safe as is, I can’t see a problem yet.

On other news, I’m still searching for a second knurled knob to fit the rear boot trim, I know there are two in the garage but only one has surfaced so far! I’ll get them in the post as soon as I find the second one!

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